Tugging on a holstered handgun ain't funny, y'all

Silvertongue · Sep 14, 2013

About fifteen minutes ago, some coworkers walked into the fast food restaurant I was enjoying. While chatting with them, one of them thought it would be funny to tug on my holstered handgun.
Elbow clamped it down and weak side knife came out and between us, chest level. "Take your (expletive) hand off the gun."
I'm glad he listened. Hate for someone to get hurt just for being stupid.
... Still shaking, though.

eye95 · Sep 14, 2013

You were absolutely right not to react as though he was kidding--even though he surely was. You would be responsible (at least partly) if something bad happened from the incident.

NO ONE touches my gun unless I OK it. NO ONE!

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BennieH · Sep 14, 2013

I have to agree, it ain't funny. Right along with messin' with my hat!

Silvertongue · Sep 14, 2013

I have to hope that he learned his lesson and will become an upstanding, safety-minded member of society.

JustaShooter · Sep 14, 2013

Silvertongue said:
I have to hope that he learned his lesson and will become an upstanding, safety-minded member of society.

I'm sure he'll get right on that, as soon as he cleans his shorts! :lol:

Silvertongue · Sep 14, 2013

JustaShooter said:
I'm sure he'll get right on that, as soon as he cleans his shorts! :lol:

It's not like I carry a tan Karambit with a four-inch blade in my pocket or anything.

Rusty Young Man · Sep 15, 2013

Silvertongue said:
I have to hope that he learned his lesson and will become an upstanding, safety-minded member of society.

For his own safety, I hope so (but if not, Darwin Award!

).

Glad you handled it so well, I don't think they'll forget about it anytime soon. Am I correct to assume your reaction was reflexive? If so, an extra +1 for you.

Silvertongue · Sep 15, 2013

Rusty Young Man said:
For his own safety, I hope so (but if not, Darwin Award!).

Glad you handled it so well, I don't think they'll forget about it anytime soon. Am I correct to assume your reaction was reflexive? If so, an extra +1 for you.

Looking back, the only thing I can say about my reaction is "too slow." I saw him coming up on my 4:00 and should have bladed off to him, even though I knew him. Could have kept the whole thing from happening.

stealthyeliminator · Sep 15, 2013

So many things could be said.. But.. You're exactly right. It ain't funny. It's a very serious matter. Hopefully he realizes he should never, ever do something like that again. An apology from him wouldn't be out of line, either, though I wouldn't necessarily go asking for one. He might be a little ashamed once he realizes the gravity of his action. Even if he meant it playfully, it doesn't change what it is, and it was a huge mistake.

Silvertongue · Sep 15, 2013

On the up side, the holster did its job very well.

Anybody else rocking a Safariland ALS system?

Firearms Iinstuctor · Sep 15, 2013

Stupid is as stupid does.

davidmcbeth · Sep 15, 2013

Idiot almost cost you both your jobs.

Silvertongue · Sep 15, 2013

davidmcbeth said:
Idiot almost cost you both your jobs.

I certainly hope that whatever reaction I had short of shooting him would have resulted in no action from the retail company for which I work. It was my day off.

However, they have some weird policies about what people can do on their meal breaks, so it's possible that he might have been punished. I don't know.

I let upper-level store management know today. The manager I told responded with "What is he, stupid or something?" And that was it.

vegaspassat · Sep 15, 2013

Kudos to you. This is definitely a big wake up call for me as I am realizing just now that I'm probably a little too cavalier/comfortable around people I know. Thank you for sharing! Situational awareness is a matter of diligence

marshaul · Sep 15, 2013

Yeah, I had a buddy do this to me once. Sad part is he's a gun guy, too. I knew he was there, so he only caught me off guard insofar as I didn't think he'd do something like that. Therefore, my reaction was quite measured. I advised him that next time it wouldn't be.

skeith5 · Sep 16, 2013

Silvertongue said:
On the up side, the holster did its job very well.

Anybody else rocking a Safariland ALS system?

That's my preferred holster and the only one I OC with!

JoeSparky · Sep 16, 2013

I could VERY EASILY construe someone grabbing/tugging my holstered firearm as an allempt to illegally disarm me and attempted theft of said firearm. This could also by extension be the immediate precursor to their attempt to use my firearm against me in a illegal manner. Any such action will be aggressively and potentially violently resisted by me.

Just what sort of fool does this sort of stuff?

davidmcbeth · Sep 16, 2013

Silvertongue said:
I certainly hope that whatever reaction I had short of shooting him would have resulted in no action from the retail company for which I work. It was my day off.

However, they have some weird policies about what people can do on their meal breaks, so it's possible that he might have been punished. I don't know.

I let upper-level store management know today. The manager I told responded with "What is he, stupid or something?" And that was it.

The problem I see is that he pulled a knife. If I was there and was their manager ... if "I'm sorrys" all around were not made, they would not have needed to hurry to finish their lunches ...

skidmark · Sep 16, 2013

Kudos for coming out the far side without a major police report starring your name.

I understand it was "a friend" but I am tactically concerned about

and weak side knife came out and between us, chest level.

Why chest level? Among many other concerns, there are a whole lot of bones that will get in the way of the blade going in. Also, cutting/stabbing the chest does little that I can see towards getting the hand off your handgun.

I carry a TDI http://www.kabar.com/knives/detail/76 carried weak-side. I have trained to cut across the top of the hand that is holding my strong-side arm or my firearm (there are blunt-edged trainers available) which will pretty much guarantee that whoever has a grip on you or your handgun will let go. (And if I'm positive it is just some idiot with no malice in their heart trying to show off, I can turn the blade and rake their hand with the back of the knife, which is painful in its own right.)

Of course, YMMV applies to this tactic as it does to all other tactics.

But I'd still like to hear why you chose to target the chest.

stay safe.

KBCraig · Sep 16, 2013

Silvertongue said:
I certainly hope that whatever reaction I had short of shooting him would have resulted in no action from the retail company for which I work. It was my day off.

However, they have some weird policies about what people can do on their meal breaks, so it's possible that he might have been punished. I don't know.

I let upper-level store management know today. The manager I told responded with "What is he, stupid or something?" And that was it.

Most major corporate lawsuit-averse companies would treat any such interaction between coworkers, even off duty, as at least potentially "workplace violence", at least to the point of conducting a threat assessment.

Tugging on a holstered handgun ain't funny, y'all

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