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    Why do you need "Flash" ad's on the Forum?

    Ad's like the annoying "3 Speed Holster" eat up to much bandwith and take to long to load for thouse plagued by a slow internet connection. Why not just put up a plain HTML ad? Cutsie mvoing banners are not going to make someone buy a product especially if they irritate PPL! Has this gone from an interesting forum to a commercial venture where all you care about is trying to sell someone something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vermonter View Post
    Ad's like the annoying "3 Speed Holster" eat up to much bandwith and take to long to load for thouse plagued by a slow internet connection. Why not just put up a plain HTML ad? Cutsie mvoing banners are not going to make someone buy a product especially if they irritate PPL! Has this gone from an interesting forum to a commercial venture where all you care about is trying to sell someone something?
    I doubt it.

    Lets not forget that John probably has law school loans and so forth that he has to repay now that he's graduated.

    Even if he is turning a little profit, what the heck. Its not going to be much.

    For the longest time, there were no ads. Except for those of us who send a bit of cash to John periodically, users get the forum for free.

    I find the ads annoying, but since I haven't chipped in cash for a long while, I can't personally complain.

    Maybe John can do a little quarterly fundraiser, and if successful, drop the ads. Or maybe make them just unlive .pdfs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    I doubt it.

    Lets not forget that John probably has law school loans and so forth that he has to repay now that he's graduated.
    Not really our responsibility, is it? I have no problem with a few ads that'll pay for the forum expenses. But loading it up to pay for law school, well... It's his forum, so he can do whatever he wants to. Forums with too many adds, however, tend to drive most people away.

    For the longest time, there were no ads. Except for those of us who send a bit of cash to John periodically, users get the forum for free.
    I gave him a buck or two. Or maybe I bought a 2A coin or two...

    I find the ads annoying, but since I haven't chipped in cash for a long while, I can't personally complain.

    Maybe John can do a little quarterly fundraiser, and if successful, drop the ads. Or maybe make them just unlive .pdfs.
    Once the forum's expenses are covered, it'd be nice if he could limit them to two per page, instead of six or more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    [law school] Not really our responsibility, is it? I have no problem with a few ads that'll pay for the forum expenses. But loading it up to pay for law school, well... It's his forum, so he can do whatever he wants to. Forums with too many adds, however, tend to drive most people away.
    I'm sorry. I guess I shoulda been more specific to ensure the hyper-critical couldn't take it the wrong way.

    I shoulda said, "With law school loans to pay off, I wouldn't be surprised if his cash flow didn't allow him to personally finance a 2A playground for the rest of us."

    Yeah! Lets just throw John and Mike under the bus, and forget all they've done for 2A by hosting this forum for seven years for some 20K members nationwide to learn and exchange ideas. What a bunch selfish ***holes they are! /sarcasm
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Funny - when I opened this thread, it displayed an ad for highspeed internet at the top XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    I'm sorry. I guess I shoulda been more specific to ensure the hyper-critical couldn't take it the wrong way.

    I shoulda said, "With law school loans to pay off, I wouldn't be surprised if his cash flow didn't allow him to personally finance a 2A playground for the rest of us."

    Yeah! Lets just throw John and Mike under the bus, and forget all they've done for 2A by hosting this forum for seven years for some 20K members nationwide to learn and exchange ideas. What a bunch selfish ***holes they are! /sarcasm
    User/membership is almost at 39K now and nobody has ever been charged the first red cent for the operation, servers, security, etc. - nada, zip. I doubt that the intent was to set up a non-profit operation, but think at best John and Mike have a very low return on investment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    User/membership is almost at 39K now and nobody has ever been charged the first red cent for the operation, servers, security, etc. - nada, zip. I doubt that the intent was to set up a non-profit operation, but think at best John and Mike have a very low return on investment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I did not know Grapeshot's salary was so high !
    The partners actually doubled my annual salary last year, gave me a card permitting free water at participating restaurants, and moved my office indoors - now I have a place to sleep.

    Seriously, it is a privilege to work with them.
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