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Hello all, Just moved to Wisconsin from Nevada.

Plankton

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I can understand 3.5 years of non-negative interaction while OC-ing, but it is all in how you carry yourself from my experience. You show up with camo/black on, and facepaint and a bandanna wrapped around your head, you will probably get screwed with. I have always made myself easy to approach, made my sidearm visible when I enter a private business, and kept a smile on my face. However, this has mostly been in the western states, like Utah, Nevada, Idaho. Wisco, and seemingly everything on this side of the Mississippi is a little less friendly, accepting, and/or used to seeing average people walk around while exercising their rights. I guess that is just one thing that must be given up when moving 2000 miles east. I kinda wish the people in this state had started exposing safe and conscientiously owned firearms to the sheeple sooner. By this point, it would be as "normal" as it is where I just moved from. I guess the facts are what they are, and this will just have to be something I get used to.

You get to decide who is giving you accurate information. I'm giving you my first hand information on open carry in Madison. If you read through the posts of another; you will find, racist, sexist, anti-gay statements, along with a general theme of disrespect and personal attacks on law abiding gun owners. Choose wisely. Welcome to Wisconsin. Carry on.
 
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chowda

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while OC-ing, but it is all in how you carry yourself from my experience. You show up with camo/black on, and facepaint and a bandanna wrapped around your head, you will probably get screwed with. I have always made myself easy to approach, made my sidearm visible when I enter a private business, and kept a smile on my face.

Thank you for being a good representative of the gun community. If one wouldn't dress like they would on a date when doing OC..... ;)

However, this has mostly been in the western states, like Utah, Nevada, Idaho. Wisco, and seemingly everything on this side of the Mississippi is a little less friendly,
The north central US is mostly northern european, so they are pretty clannish, not very open to others. They are good people, but pretty, well, clannish. Nature of the northern european influence.

BTW, I don't find what you just said offensive as it's your reality, so it's OK. ;) :D
 
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chowda

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All I did was state facts. Open carry, 3 1/2 years, in Madison.
OK, so you walked around a hotel on the far west side of madison a few times when you visited there. Fine. You go with your badself.
I did note you didn't answer my questions. Maybe I just don't state things clearly as I do have a tendency to babble on.

So, got any pictures/vids of you walking down state street with an ak on your back?
Around the square during saturday's farmer's market?
Willy street fair, watching the bands?

And all you did was make stuff up.
Um, yeah. So got any videos of you doing the above? Witnesses? Pictures or are you just one of those that skirt the safe areas of small liberal/progressive towns and tell people it's OK to be not liberal/progressive there?
 

MAC702

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I am still trying to get used to the Wisconsin OC laws, and as soon as I find a steady job, I will be getting my Concealed Carry Permit. Nevada was a lot easier to figure out, as it applies to open carry...

Well, I, for one, am a little miffed.

All that time in NV, and you don't join OCDO until you move to Wisconsin.

Hmmph.
 

Plankton

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OK, so you walked around a hotel on the far west side of madison a few times when you visited there. Fine. You go with your badself.
I did note you didn't answer my questions. Maybe I just don't state things clearly as I do have a tendency to babble on.

So, got any pictures/vids of you walking down state street with an ak on your back?
Around the square during saturday's farmer's market?
Willy street fair, watching the bands?


Um, yeah. So got any videos of you doing the above? Witnesses? Pictures or are you just one of those that skirt the safe areas of small liberal/progressive towns and tell people it's OK to be not liberal/progressive there?

I was on State St. 2 weeks ago. Had lunch at my favorite resturant. I have open carried at the Madison farmers market. I've also talked to a Capitol Police officer about his carry piece, a Sig Sauer. I go wherever I want, or need, In my daily business. You keep talking about AK's and masks. Why, I don't know. 3 1/2 years. No negative interactions. And you keep making things up. *YAWN*
 

Brendon .45

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Someone seems to have some sand in their vagina... And is pre-occupied with dressing like they belong to the symbionese liberation army and strapping AK's to their backs.

Anywho, I have OC'd around Madison a bit (not so much anymore since I can conceal - my choice). I have never had any issues other than a few sneers from those who are presumably better than I :rolleyes: Been downtown a couple times OC without any problems, though I do try to avoid downtown on principle; and because I don't like crowds.
 

sippycup

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Thank you for being a good representative of the gun community. If one wouldn't dress like they would on a date when doing OC..... ;)


The north central US is mostly northern european, so they are pretty clannish, not very open to others. They are good people, but pretty, well, clannish. Nature of the northern european influence.

BTW, I don't find what you just said offensive as it's your reality, so it's OK. ;) :D

I meant only friendly towards Open Carry, not in everyday life. I understand now that what I wrote was not what I intended in the least, as I was only referring to a community or area that was accepting of my way of life. The people in the northern central US are very friendly in my experience. I apologize for the misstatement I made.

As for MAC702, I lived up in the Reno area, and really felt no need to talk about OC'ing up in the land of the free. I needed no blue card, and only got supportive questions from people who had no idea about the legal open carry in the area. ;-P
 

chowda

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You keep talking about AK's and masks. Why, I don't know.

Didn't some folks wander around the farmers market in appleton with 'assault weapons'?
Didn't someone else post a pic of someone (dressed in head to toe black) also hang out at that public place, but with pistol gripped shotgun over his back?
And when I say that's 8 ways of stupid for PR, all as I'd get back was "it's my RIGHT!".

But thanks for (finally, albeit indirectly) answering my question as to whether in your 3.5 yrs in madison, you ever have wandered down state street, hung out at the mall, etc. similarly adorned. Your answer is "no".

Why do I mention masks? Because that too is your "right". You and a few of your friends dress up in all black, don your masks, and carry your ARs/AKs down state street. Actually, people would give you more room than if it was just you.
If someone is interested in changing people minds, or exposing people to things in an effort to let them know it's OK, then one should think about how they present themselves.
 

chowda

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Someone seems to have some sand in their vagina
I'm not a female, but my wife it. She likes firearms and is very conservative. So are you talking about her? Or are you confusing firearms with gender? And people wonder why, in general, females think 'guns' are "just an extension of a mans penis" (in some compensatory manner). Way to go ace.

For the females reading this--or males that like females--ignore him and check this out. Females can enjoy the shooting sports and also, use firearms for self defense.

http://nrawomen.tv/home/video/new-energy-trailer

Anywho, I have OC'd around Madison a bit (not so much anymore since I can conceal - my choice).
Like they do in appleton's farmers market, black with ARs? Shotguns!!!!!!!
How did you conceal your fal?
 

Plankton

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Didn't some folks wander around the farmers market in appleton with 'assault weapons'?
Didn't someone else post a pic of someone (dressed in head to toe black) also hang out at that public place, but with pistol gripped shotgun over his back?
And when I say that's 8 ways of stupid for PR, all as I'd get back was "it's my RIGHT!".

But thanks for (finally, albeit indirectly) answering my question as to whether in your 3.5 yrs in madison, you ever have wandered down state street, hung out at the mall, etc. similarly adorned. Your answer is "no".

Why do I mention masks? Because that too is your "right". You and a few of your friends dress up in all black, don your masks, and carry your ARs/AKs down state street. Actually, people would give you more room than if it was just you.
If someone is interested in changing people minds, or exposing people to things in an effort to let them know it's OK, then one should think about how they present themselves.

You were telling the newcomer about all the "horrors" of OC in Madison, and I rightly called BS. Like I said: 3 1/2 years, OC, Madison. No "horror" stories. And you keep making stuff up.
 

Brendon .45

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I'm not a female

I never implied you were, but you still seem to be chafing... my only explanation is that you must have something unpleasant in your nether-regions. Whenever someone at work is being cranky, we say "He must have some sand in his vagina". Men can be crude sometimes, but it's all in fun.


Like they do in appleton's farmers market, black with ARs? Shotguns!!!!!!!
How did you conceal your fal

You seem to be attacking people, hell-bent on insisting that they are carrying long guns when you know nothing about them. I don't know Plankton (I think I might have met him once or twice...), but you are attacking him, for what? What is YOUR agenda?

For the record, I don't have an FAL and even if I did I would not open carry it unless on the trail/in the woods. I do agree, concealing one might be diffiult. I do believe that the OC of long guns to make a point is counterproductive for our cause, but to each his/her own. I'm not going to come down on anyone for doing so; just the same as I am not going to stalk someone because they don't wear a helmet on a motorcycle. In my opinion a stupid choice but it is their choice.




Back on topic:
Welcome, Dave! The Madison area is great and there are more of us around here than meets the eye. It's just hard to find us through the purple haze that engulfs Madison.

Looking for a range - there will sometime soon be one in the Middleton area. Follow http://www.actiongunclub.com/ for updates. By the same people who are opening the range: http://www.accuratearmsandammunition.com/. One of the owners is also an insurance agent working with all lines and specializes in finding policies that are self-defense friendly. And he's a nice guy too!
 

sippycup

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Welcome, Dave! The Madison area is great and there are more of us around here than meets the eye. It's just hard to find us through the purple haze that engulfs Madison.

Looking for a range - there will sometime soon be one in the Middleton area. Follow http://www.actiongunclub.com/ for updates. By the same people who are opening the range: http://www.accuratearmsandammunition.com/. One of the owners is also an insurance agent working with all lines and specializes in finding policies that are self-defense friendly. And he's a nice guy too!

Thanks for the info! I have been trying to locate a decent ammo shop, as I prefer buying from local manufacturers and/or businesses. I fully understand the heated discussions on the forum, as Wisconsin seems to be filled with polarizing populaces, especially in the southwest portion of the state. I believe there is a saying which includes something along the lines of 77 square miles surrounded by reality.
 

chowda

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You were telling the newcomer about all the "horrors" of OC in Madison, and I rightly called BS.
I hope you have standard capacity mags for your ak as you surely aren't very accurate.

[me] I'd steer clear if madison as it's a liberal/progressive cesspool. You can be as legal as a beagle, but still run into problems there because, well, it's madison and unless you're a liberal/progressive and/or protected minority class, you won't win.

Don't make be breakdown engrish for yous.... :D
 

chowda

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You seem to be attacking people, hell-bent on insisting that they are carrying long guns when you know nothing about them.
No, the reason why I came here is because some dumbasses carried long guns to an urban farmer's market...and I saw another dumbass dressed in head to toe black with a shotgun on his back....in white bread, conservative safe appleton's downtown. Yeah, that's turning conservative people, or moderates, against you (your cause celeb), and driving them into the liberal/progressive ******** programming.

I guess some folks see the bigger picture, the long war, and others are much more short term in their actions/thought. To each his own.

For the record, I don't have an FAL and even if I did I would not open carry it unless on the trail/in the woods. I do agree, concealing one might be diffiult. I do believe that the OC of long guns to make a point is counterproductive for our cause

That's EXACTLY what I've been talking about.

but to each his/her own. I'm not going to come down on anyone for doing so
I will state my mind as I was in colorado before, during and after the black adorned whackjobs acted out and lived with the repercussions. And the liberal/progressives have made a lot of their socialist hay off of that since then. That was completely a PR campaign directed at the non-gun people. Now, in a firearm friendly state, it seems like a few individuals are representing the firearm community--OK they are too busy thinking about they themselves--by fulfilling all the sterotypes non gun owners (and even some gun owners) have of people that want to open carry, concealed carry, or have/use sport utility rifles.

Let people become comfortable with 'normal looking' people walking around with a pistol on their hip, plainly visible. When 'people' become comfortable with that, then we will have a firearm friendly and accepting community.
Sticking things in people's faces rarely works. Speaking of which, so how have people been accepting me here? lmmfao......
 

MKEgal

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Brendon .45 said:
You [chowda] seem to be attacking people
Doug does that with all his accounts; it's one way to tell that it's really him.

Interceptor_Knight said:
You are comparing your deliberate antagonistic and insulting posting with someone exercising their right to carry in public?
Probably the way he looks at it is 1A = 2A,
therefore verbally attacking people = carrying openly.
(Yes, I'm aware it doesn't work that way, but Doug is pretending he doesn't, because it makes for more arguments.)
 

chowda

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You are comparing...deliberate antagonistic...with someone exercising their right to carry in public?
So open carrying a 1911 on your hip as you walk down the street....actually to somewhere, is the same as going to a farmers market with sport utility rifles? :dude: Speaking of sticking it into people's face antagonism, did any of those people even buy anything? Or were they just passing through on their way to a store there from their car?
 

Interceptor_Knight

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Speaking of sticking it into people's face antagonism, did any of those people even buy anything? ..
Despite your insistence, manner of dress, carry of inanimate objects, tattoos, piercings, etc is not equal to deliberate antagonism such as carrying an inflammatory sign or explicitly attacking individuals on an internet message board..
 
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