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    Ark. State Police making up their own laws

    It seems that not only do the state police plan to ignore Act 746 (constitutional carry), they also plan to ignore the clear intent of Act 1089, which removed ASP's discretion to recognize out-of-state licenses, and required all licenses to be recognized.

    Their log? The law requires recognition of concealed handgun licenses, so states that issue concealed weapon licenses don't meet the standard.

    http://arkansascarry.com/component/c...-act-1089.html

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    After reading the letter issued by the ASP, I'm considering writing a letter to the Arkansas Attorney General as suggested byLieutenant Gentry of the ASP, and asking for an explanation of how a handgun fails to fall under the category of "weapon".

    Here in Missouri, we are licensed to conceal "weapons". This means we can conceal tasers, hatchets, nunchuks, and any and ALL manner of weapons which happen to include, as a subcategory, handguns.

    Evidently, Lt. Gentry seems to believe (and infers that the Attorney General also believes) that handguns are not weapons.

    I'd be interested in hearing how she explains handguns not falling into the category of weapons. I think I'll drop her and the Atty. General an inquiry as I would be prevented from visiting my southern neighbors in Arkansas. I'll keep everyone updated if I receive a response.
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    Luckily it is not illegal to carry in Arkansas, unless you intend to do harm.
    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    Luckily it is not illegal to carry in Arkansas, unless you intend to do harm.
    Unfortunately, the ASP are ignoring that law, too.

    The reciprocity issue has been updated. The ASP general counsel wrote to Idaho and told them the lieutenant was mistaken, and Arkansas will recognize any license that authorizes carry of a concealed handgun, no matter what it's called, but that it only applies to a concealed handgun while in Arkansas and not to other weapons that may be authorized by the home state.

    http://www.isp.idaho.gov/BCI/documen...sas%202013.pdf

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    Looks like little Miss Cora done been told, bless her little heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallschirmjäger View Post
    Looks like little Miss Cora done been told, bless her little heart.
    Hey Fallschirmjager,

    I guess little Miss Cora forgot that she is a lowly bureaucrat and not a legislator. Do bureaucrats in AR know that the Legislature makes law, the Governor signs those laws into effect, and then beaurocrats uphold the law?

    LEO and bureaucrats in AR seem to be rewriting and adjudicating law from their cubicle.

    Gov. Bebe needs to clean-house.

    markm

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBofRAdvocate View Post

    Gov. Bebe needs to clean-house.

    The house cleaning needs to start with Beebe, then McDaniel, then the State Police bureaucrats. Right now they're just following their leadership in the AR Dem party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    Luckily it is not illegal to carry in Arkansas, unless you intend to do harm.
    Thought crime? Who knew??

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    Quote Originally Posted by endorphine44 View Post
    The house cleaning needs to start with Beebe, then McDaniel, then the State Police bureaucrats. Right now they're just following their leadership in the AR Dem party.
    Hello endorphine44,

    I agree with your opinion; I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    Thought crime? Who knew??
    Hello Maverick9,

    The newly worded law puts the burden of proof on the prosecuting attorney. That is very difficult for the PA to prove unless people witnessed unlawful actions.

    markm

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