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    A certain retired police officer threw down the gauntlet.

    I mentioned in my usual humorous/hyperbolic way that I was going to try to get arrested this weekend at the gun show. That certain retired police officer, suggested that I stop the half-stepping and just do it at 3rd and Main (I assume he means in Dayton) and said that I would be arrested if I did.

    [barney stinson voice]Challenge accepted![/barney stinson voice]

    So I'd like to schedule an OC walk in Dayton. I'd like to see the kind of turnout we have experienced when carriers from all over the State joined the rallies in NE Ohio. Since the retiree will likely alert his buddies as to what is going on, we may actually encounter LEOs who think OC in Dayton is illegal. It would be helpful if one or both of our legal eagles would be in attendance (although we know that you guys are quite busy).

    No date and time set yet, but I'd probably shoot for a Sunday.

    I'd like to gauge participation, so post here if you are interested and talk up the possibility on other sites and for the facebook crowd.


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    I'm game, depending on the decided upon date.

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    When the going gets tough, the tough get going !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE


    Where's the guts?

    Lets DO IT ......
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    Make sure to invite the challenger!
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    Reckon I'll be in. Fifty miles one way is better than two hundred! Won't need my hippie costume and signs this time will I?

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    That would be a long haul for me. More importantly, the prospect is not very interesting.

    If an active-duty peace officer had said that, he would speak as an agent of the department, and I might be interested. Retirees are notorious for blowin' smoke because they're no longer accountable for what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    When the going gets tough, the tough get going !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE


    Where's the guts?

    Lets DO IT ......
    I cannot and will not tell you what to do. I can only control myself. However, if you are there, I will not be. Since you are full of bluster and BS (and you live in CT), I am pretty damned sure that you will be in your mommy's basement in CT and nowhere near where the rubber meets the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werz View Post
    That would be a long haul for me. More importantly, the prospect is not very interesting.

    If an active-duty peace officer had said that, he would speak as an agent of the department, and I might be interested. Retirees are notorious for blowin' smoke because they're no longer accountable for what they say.
    I am sorry to hear that. He was a thug cop who bragged about rousting OCers and dragging drivers through car windows when they did not get out fast enough. (I know his ex-partner, who is actually pretty cool, and he verifies the stories--and not in a complimentary way.) I was going to invite him to the party and let him see what actually happens when folks OC and was hoping that you could be there to school him (and any rogue officers who happen by).

    I defer to your judgment as to whether it will be worth a cross-State trip.

    Just to lay on a little guilt trip, I have made the opposite trip three times now, the last time to enjoy some pizza with you in Oberlin. ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWifeSaidYes View Post
    Make sure to invite the challenger!
    Oh, I will. And you too! And your son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian D. View Post
    Reckon I'll be in. Fifty miles one way is better than two hundred! Won't need my hippie costume and signs this time will I?
    Signs are optional. However, in order for folks to be able to recognize you, the Granny Winters hippie costume is a must.

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    How does Sunday the 13th look to folks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    How does Sunday the 13th look to folks?
    That would be a negatory for me. I have plans on the 12th that will deplete my 'fun/spare gas money' for that week. I would also be unavailable on the 20th due to being in Portsmouth on an errand. I would, AFAIK ATM, be available the 27th. May be a bit chilly by then, but that's what coats are for. Obviously, don't let my availability be the driving factor. If the 13th works for the rest, then I wish you all the best, enjoy, educate some people, and try not to get arrested.

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    This will probably happen, and when it happens and nothing happens what'll prolly happen is....
    Ol' Brokeback cop will say, "It's that 'new generation' of cops, they aren't worth nuthin'. Back in my day we woulda drug 'em out behind the woodshed and gave 'em a wood shampoo. People are too soft these days. Cops in my generation woulda never gone for that ."

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post

    Just to lay on a little guilt trip, I have made the opposite trip three times now, the last time to enjoy some pizza with you in Oberlin. ^_^
    Actually 4 now including today at the Gun Show ;-)

    I would love to make it out if I can for sure. I know for sure the 20th is out due to our monthly meeting. I will check on the 12/13th weekend.
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    As I mentioned at the gun show today, I sure wish this could be on a Saturday instead - my Sundays are all spoken for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEOOpenCarry View Post
    Actually 4 now including today at the Gun Show ;-)

    I would love to make it out if I can for sure. I know for sure the 20th is out due to our monthly meeting. I will check on the 12/13th weekend.
    I appreciate whatever support comes from the NE. You have a strong bunch up there--and that helps the entire State, even us indies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaShooter View Post
    As I mentioned at the gun show today, I sure wish this could be on a Saturday instead - my Sundays are all spoken for.
    I gotta tell you that I will be biking over there from Church at the Kroc!


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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    I gotta tell you that I will be biking over there from Church at the Kroc!
    Nice. Unfortunately the 6 hour round trip won't allow me to leave the morning service at noon and be back to run the sound board for the evening service at 6...
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    Dayton OC. Walk

    Eye95......I'd be willing.....been to a few walks up around my area this year with NEO Carry. I could be avaliable ,at this point, just about any sat. OR sun.....live about 1/2 mi. E. of Wooster. Would prefer a sat. but hey, I'm flexable. I'm self-employed and I'm pretty busy right now, just need a good bit of a heads up tho. Might try to car pool witha few over my way. There may be poss. 3 others that are not on this forum that may be interrested in come'in along! Need to post this on BFA's website......too' Bad thing tho is mt computer is having some work done to it maybe this week and I may be out of the loop here, for awhile,but I'll try to keep up on this thread by other means. Three of us go to church on sun. so I'm think'in sat. would suit most of us here(out of the 4 of us).

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    If my tentative schedule remains as is, Sunday the 13th will be it--at 1 PM. I will determine the exact location to avoid any GFSZ. I don't want to provide any rogue cop with an excuse.

    If I get the 12th off (highly unlikely), and most of you prefer Saturday, we'll change it.

    When this is locked in cement, I appreciate any mentions on the other sites. I will also send out the Twitter alert.

    Follow eye95 on Twitter for alerts on all rallies in Ohio. Keep me informed of them. Even if I won't be going, I will put them on the feed.

    It seems that there are a lot of events in the next few weeks that haven't made the feed. Tell me, and I will put them on the feed ASAP.


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    My schedule has changed. I am available either Saturday the 12th, or Sunday the 13th, or both.

    After another gentleman who works for me alerted me that Third and Main was a "bad neighborhood," I scouted out the area. It is a downtown intersection, nothing but businesses around. No schools in the area. There is a food court about a block from the intersection and a Subway nearby for a meal. I will further scout parking in the daylight.

    Anyway, it is time for final commitments. Who is up for the 12th? Or we could still do the 13th.

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    I am hoping to see some paid client invoices by Friday. If so, I'm good for either day. If not, take some video!
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    And naturally I now have a commitment for Saturday the 12th so I'm out either day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    I mentioned in my usual humorous/hyperbolic way that I was going to try to get arrested this weekend at the gun show. That certain retired police officer, suggested that I stop the half-stepping and just do it at 3rd and Main (I assume he means in Dayton) and said that I would be arrested if I did...
    I'm definitely interested, but you need to get this guy (retired cop) to come along.

    If he won't, then as far as I'm concerned nothing has or will been proven, and there's no sense in coming - and I in no way mean that as anything against you.

    Get him to name the place and time, and assure you that he will be there, then I'll show up.

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    Looking at his schedule, I don't see it happening. I will tell him of our plans and invite him. If he can work a schedule swap, I am sure he will try to be there. However, looking at his schedule and the schedules of others, someone would have to make one helluva scheduling sacrifice to get him the day off.

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