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    Is this sign illegal?

    Saw this sign at Ravenna Park which is close to where I live. It doesn't say firearms are prohibited but it does say weapons. I think maybe because it doesn't mention firearms specifically that it's fine. Weapons could be anything I suppose but I think they should specify what weapons or maybe "weapons specified by RCW..."

    In other news my CPL finally came in the mail! They had 30 days to get it to me and it took 29 haha. Kudos to the Seattle police department for being polite and prompt through the entire process. Now I won't have to worry about accidentally covering my firearm while open carrying.
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    Did not MSG Laigaie's experience clarify the status of firearms (OC) in parks? I don't know, just asking.

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    Even if legal in wording, I would write a respectful letter to have its wording changed. Those signs, even when the police or other authorities know what to actually enforce, do us a disservice because everyone else sees the signs, then sees us, and assumes we are the ones disobeying.
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    wow sorry for the sideways pic guys. it's sort of difficult to navigate this site with my phone. looks like i'll have to get tapatalk.
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    Probably unlawful (against the law, the law being RCW 9.41.290 & .300) but not illegal (illegal being a sick bird).
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    It's legal to have weapons so long as you have alcohol.

    Unless I misread that sign.

    possession of alcohol OR weapons
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    I read it as....
    As in any Park the following are prohibited.

    .yada
    .yada
    .yada
    .yada
    .Possession of alcohol or weapons


    Beyond the attitude, I do not believe any little government, no matter how they stomp their feet, can make any law, ordinance, suggestion, or whatever if they are not the State government. My situation re-enforced the law. Oak Harbour put a petty tyrant in his place. The State Attorney General put the city of seattle on notice.
    This kind of buffoonery and complete waste of tax money needs to stop. If the sign is new, they did no research. If it is old, and preemption was quite a while ago, it needs to be fixed.
    Who will champion this repair??
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    I forgot to include this.........
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    I read it as....
    As in any Park the following are prohibited.

    .yada
    .yada
    .yada
    .yada
    .Possession of alcohol or weapons


    Beyond the attitude, I do not believe any little government, no matter how they stomp their feet, can make any law, ordinance, suggestion, or whatever if they are not the State government. My situation re-enforced the law. Oak Harbour put a petty tyrant in his place. The State Attorney General put the city of seattle on notice.
    This kind of buffoonery and complete waste of tax money needs to stop. If the sign is new, they did no research. If it is old, and preemption was quite a while ago, it needs to be fixed.
    Who will champion this repair??
    I will. It's right outside my place so I'll call someone. Now that I have the CPL scratched off my list I need a new project. I'll keep you updated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bebop4one View Post
    wow sorry for the sideways pic guys. it's sort of difficult to navigate this site with my phone. looks like i'll have to get tapatalk.
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    Ok so I looked up S.M.C.18.12 and it says this about firearms:

    3.2.31 Firearms violations under RCW Chapter 9.41.

    Here's the link http://www.seattle.gov/parks/ParkBoa...ct_revised.pdf

    Regardless though it says weapons are prohibited which is incorrect. I'm going to see if I can get ahold of anyone.
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    I dunno. I think you'd be safe. Who said your gun is a weapon? I thought it was a tool....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan 5 View Post
    I dunno. I think you'd be safe. Who said your gun is a weapon? I thought it was a tool....
    It is a tool that is a weapon.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    It's legal to have weapons so long as you have alcohol.

    Unless I misread that sign.
    lol

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