Law abider
Regular Member
Many f you listen to Nick Clark Chairman of WI carry on Well armed radio. He has emailed us on AB-9 that will allow off duty and retired leos privileges that we don't have in CCing. This is OUTRAGEOUS!
Greetings in Freedom,
With the help of one of our members we've been keeping close tabs on Rep. Joel Kleefish's ASSEMBLY BILL 9.
This bill would grant SPECIAL PRIVILEGES to OFF DUTY AND FORMER police officers. It would TRAMPLE private property rights.
AB 9 would allow OFF DUTY and FORMER police officers to IGNORE private property "no guns" postings. So if a restaurant or store was posted, while YOU AND I would be trespassing to carry beyond "No guns" signs, off-duty and former cops would be allowed to ignore them.
Private property rights are the foundation of many of the basic rights we enjoy as free citizens. This trampling of private property rights must be stopped.
FURTHERMORE, Joel Kleefish's bill would allow off-duty and former police officers to carry on school grounds WITHOUT PERMISSION (they can already carry on school grounds WITH permission)
Last spring speaking with Joel personally, he promised me 2 things:
1) If we support his bill, he would strip the private property language out of it
2) if we support his bill he PROMISED to introduce an amendment that would allow ALL CCW holders to carry on school grounds.
Both of these promises have been broken and ASSEMBLY BILL 9 is just another example of GOVERNMENT acting in the best interest of GOVERNMENT.
I think we've all had enough of that kind of legislation coming out of Washington, and its SAD to see it coming out of Madison.
Wisconsin Carry will support NO legislation that offers special carry privileges to OFF-DUTY and FORMER police officers unless CCL holders are included. Over 200,000 law-abiding citizens in Wisconsin have jumped through the government hoops, obtained their government mandated training, paid their concealed carry license permit TAX and registered themselves in the government database in order to exercise their human-right to self-defense which was already guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.
History has proven that schools are prime targets for mass murderers. There is **no** reason a former cop should be allowed to carry on school grounds when he or she goes to watch their kids or grand-kids school sporting events, but you and I are prohibited from that same level of protection.
THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THURSDAY REGARDING THIS LEGISLATION
Wisconsin State Capitol
Thursday, October 10, 2013
10:00 AM
300 Northeast
Assembly Bill 9
Relating to: law enforcement officers who are on duty, off-duty law enforcement officers, and former law enforcement officers and going armed with firearms.
By Representatives Kleefisch, Danou, Jacque, Mursau, Stroebel, Bernier, Born, Swearingen, A. Ott, Brooks, Tranel, Nerison, Bies, Weatherston, Kaufert, Thiesfeldt, Jagler, Schraa, T. Larson, Knodl and Czaja; cosponsored by Senators Gudex, L. Taylor and Kedzie.
PLEASE CONTACT THE LEGISLATORS LISTED ABOVE. They either signed on as "co-authors" or "co-sponsors" of this legislation. Ask them to WITHDRAW their support of it. Please be POLITE. MANY OF THESE LEGISLATORS HAVE BEEN MISLEAD that this law only closes a "loophole" and makes Wisconsin law comply with a federal law called "LEOSA" (Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act) THIS IS NOT TRUE. This legislation goes FAR beyond "LEOSA" and grants special privileges to former cops that LEOSA SPECIFICALLY does NOT include.
Granting special privileges to off-duty and former cops that allows them to ignore FUNDAMENTAL private property rights and carry where law-abiding concealed carry license holders cannot is a path to tyranny.
Ask your legislators to stand for the rights of ordinary citizens, not government.
We ask that you make 2 contacts. First EMAIL JOEL KLEEFISH: Rep.Kleefisch@legis.wisconsin.gov
Tell Joel that off-duty and former police officers shouldn't be a special class of citizens that have "government privileges" to ignore private property rights. Tell Joel that YOU should have the same right to carry for protection that a former police officer does when you go to your kids school events.
2nd. Email or call YOUR legislator if they in the following list:
Chris Danou,(Trempealeau) Rep.Danou@legis.wisconsin.gov
Andre Jacque, (DePere) Rep.Jacque@legis.wisconsin.gov
Jeff Mursau, (Crivitz) Rep.Mursau@legis.wisconsin.gov
Duey Stroebel, (Saukville) rep.stroebel@legis.wisconsin.gov
Kathleen Bernier, (Chippewa Falls) Rep.Bernier@legis.wisconsin.gov
Mark Born, (Beaver Dam) Rep.Born@legis.wisconsin.gov
Rob Swearingen, (Rhinelander) Rep.Swearingen@legis.wisconsin.gov
Jim Ott, (Mequon) Rep.OttJ@legis.wisconsin.gov
Edward Brooks, (Reedsburg) Rep.Brooks@legis.wisconsin.gov
Travis Tranel, (Cuba City) Rep.Tranel@legis.wisconsin.gov
Lee Nerison, (Westby) Rep.Nerison@legis.wisconsin.gov
Garey Bies, (Sister Bay) Rep.Bies@legis.wisconsin.gov
Thomas Weatherston, (Racine) Rep.Weatherston@legis.wisconsin.gov
Dean Kaufert, (Neenah) Rep.Kaufert@legis.wisconsin.gov
Jeremy Thiesfeldt, (Fond Du Lac) Rep.Thiesfeldt@legis.wisconsin.gov
John Jagler, (Watertown) Rep.Jagler@legis.wisconsin.gov
MIchael Schraa, (Oshkosh) Rep.Schraa@legis.wisconsin.gov
Thomas Larson, (Colfax) Rep.Larson@legis.wisconsin.gov
Daniel Knodl, (Germantown) Rep.Knodl@legis.wisconsin.gov
Mary Czaja; (Irma) Rep.Czaja@legis.wisconsin.gov
cosponsored by Senators:
Richard Gudex, (Fond Du Lac) Sen.Gudex@legis.wisconsin.gov
Lena Taylor (Milwaukee) Sen.Taylor@legis.wisconsin.gov
Neal Kedzie (Elkhorn) Sen.Kedzie@legis.wisconsin.gov
Phone numbers are available from the following listing if you prefer to call:
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/Pages/leg-list.aspx?h=a
Use the following link to find your state legislators:
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/pages/waml.aspx
IF YOU ARE FREE ON THURSDAY, PLEASE CONSIDER ATTENDING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE STATE CAPITOL.
Feel free to email me with any questions. nik@wisconsincarry.org
Carry On,
Nik Clark
Chairman/President - Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
www.wisconsincarry.org
nik@wisconsincarry.org
Greetings in Freedom,
With the help of one of our members we've been keeping close tabs on Rep. Joel Kleefish's ASSEMBLY BILL 9.
This bill would grant SPECIAL PRIVILEGES to OFF DUTY AND FORMER police officers. It would TRAMPLE private property rights.
AB 9 would allow OFF DUTY and FORMER police officers to IGNORE private property "no guns" postings. So if a restaurant or store was posted, while YOU AND I would be trespassing to carry beyond "No guns" signs, off-duty and former cops would be allowed to ignore them.
Private property rights are the foundation of many of the basic rights we enjoy as free citizens. This trampling of private property rights must be stopped.
FURTHERMORE, Joel Kleefish's bill would allow off-duty and former police officers to carry on school grounds WITHOUT PERMISSION (they can already carry on school grounds WITH permission)
Last spring speaking with Joel personally, he promised me 2 things:
1) If we support his bill, he would strip the private property language out of it
2) if we support his bill he PROMISED to introduce an amendment that would allow ALL CCW holders to carry on school grounds.
Both of these promises have been broken and ASSEMBLY BILL 9 is just another example of GOVERNMENT acting in the best interest of GOVERNMENT.
I think we've all had enough of that kind of legislation coming out of Washington, and its SAD to see it coming out of Madison.
Wisconsin Carry will support NO legislation that offers special carry privileges to OFF-DUTY and FORMER police officers unless CCL holders are included. Over 200,000 law-abiding citizens in Wisconsin have jumped through the government hoops, obtained their government mandated training, paid their concealed carry license permit TAX and registered themselves in the government database in order to exercise their human-right to self-defense which was already guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.
History has proven that schools are prime targets for mass murderers. There is **no** reason a former cop should be allowed to carry on school grounds when he or she goes to watch their kids or grand-kids school sporting events, but you and I are prohibited from that same level of protection.
THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THURSDAY REGARDING THIS LEGISLATION
Wisconsin State Capitol
Thursday, October 10, 2013
10:00 AM
300 Northeast
Assembly Bill 9
Relating to: law enforcement officers who are on duty, off-duty law enforcement officers, and former law enforcement officers and going armed with firearms.
By Representatives Kleefisch, Danou, Jacque, Mursau, Stroebel, Bernier, Born, Swearingen, A. Ott, Brooks, Tranel, Nerison, Bies, Weatherston, Kaufert, Thiesfeldt, Jagler, Schraa, T. Larson, Knodl and Czaja; cosponsored by Senators Gudex, L. Taylor and Kedzie.
PLEASE CONTACT THE LEGISLATORS LISTED ABOVE. They either signed on as "co-authors" or "co-sponsors" of this legislation. Ask them to WITHDRAW their support of it. Please be POLITE. MANY OF THESE LEGISLATORS HAVE BEEN MISLEAD that this law only closes a "loophole" and makes Wisconsin law comply with a federal law called "LEOSA" (Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act) THIS IS NOT TRUE. This legislation goes FAR beyond "LEOSA" and grants special privileges to former cops that LEOSA SPECIFICALLY does NOT include.
Granting special privileges to off-duty and former cops that allows them to ignore FUNDAMENTAL private property rights and carry where law-abiding concealed carry license holders cannot is a path to tyranny.
Ask your legislators to stand for the rights of ordinary citizens, not government.
We ask that you make 2 contacts. First EMAIL JOEL KLEEFISH: Rep.Kleefisch@legis.wisconsin.gov
Tell Joel that off-duty and former police officers shouldn't be a special class of citizens that have "government privileges" to ignore private property rights. Tell Joel that YOU should have the same right to carry for protection that a former police officer does when you go to your kids school events.
2nd. Email or call YOUR legislator if they in the following list:
Chris Danou,(Trempealeau) Rep.Danou@legis.wisconsin.gov
Andre Jacque, (DePere) Rep.Jacque@legis.wisconsin.gov
Jeff Mursau, (Crivitz) Rep.Mursau@legis.wisconsin.gov
Duey Stroebel, (Saukville) rep.stroebel@legis.wisconsin.gov
Kathleen Bernier, (Chippewa Falls) Rep.Bernier@legis.wisconsin.gov
Mark Born, (Beaver Dam) Rep.Born@legis.wisconsin.gov
Rob Swearingen, (Rhinelander) Rep.Swearingen@legis.wisconsin.gov
Jim Ott, (Mequon) Rep.OttJ@legis.wisconsin.gov
Edward Brooks, (Reedsburg) Rep.Brooks@legis.wisconsin.gov
Travis Tranel, (Cuba City) Rep.Tranel@legis.wisconsin.gov
Lee Nerison, (Westby) Rep.Nerison@legis.wisconsin.gov
Garey Bies, (Sister Bay) Rep.Bies@legis.wisconsin.gov
Thomas Weatherston, (Racine) Rep.Weatherston@legis.wisconsin.gov
Dean Kaufert, (Neenah) Rep.Kaufert@legis.wisconsin.gov
Jeremy Thiesfeldt, (Fond Du Lac) Rep.Thiesfeldt@legis.wisconsin.gov
John Jagler, (Watertown) Rep.Jagler@legis.wisconsin.gov
MIchael Schraa, (Oshkosh) Rep.Schraa@legis.wisconsin.gov
Thomas Larson, (Colfax) Rep.Larson@legis.wisconsin.gov
Daniel Knodl, (Germantown) Rep.Knodl@legis.wisconsin.gov
Mary Czaja; (Irma) Rep.Czaja@legis.wisconsin.gov
cosponsored by Senators:
Richard Gudex, (Fond Du Lac) Sen.Gudex@legis.wisconsin.gov
Lena Taylor (Milwaukee) Sen.Taylor@legis.wisconsin.gov
Neal Kedzie (Elkhorn) Sen.Kedzie@legis.wisconsin.gov
Phone numbers are available from the following listing if you prefer to call:
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/Pages/leg-list.aspx?h=a
Use the following link to find your state legislators:
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/pages/waml.aspx
IF YOU ARE FREE ON THURSDAY, PLEASE CONSIDER ATTENDING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE STATE CAPITOL.
Feel free to email me with any questions. nik@wisconsincarry.org
Carry On,
Nik Clark
Chairman/President - Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
www.wisconsincarry.org
nik@wisconsincarry.org