This is more of a concealed Carry Question (sorry) but I imagine it would apply to open carry as well.
In reviewing this site I've surmised that the City Parks sign that says no weapons and cites a muni ordnance (Federal Way Revised Code: chapter 4.05) is pretty much invalid. But with a city park and a school next to each other, is it legal to carry (concealed with CPL or open) in the park? What is the defining line between the park and the school?. I understand there is a Federal Law that might apply to this situation reading some of the other post?
In my case, I am using the track at the park, never during school hours, and I've yet to see any school related activities on the fields that are on park property while I have used the facility. Since the sign is on the track, its clear that it is part of the park, and not the school. Is there a department within the city I should call for clarification?
With concealed carry I doubt anyone would even know but I am carrying in a 5.11 shirt with shoulder holster/pouch built in, and when I am jogging obviously there is movement within the pouch/holster that might be visible... I have not had an issue and doubt I ever would, but would like to know where I stand in relationship to the law in this situation.
Thanks for the Input - J
btw... an irony... I concealed carried at the Texas State Fair weekend before last... just showed my Washington Permit to the police officer at the entry gates and bypassed the metal detectors.. but that same permit is not valid at the Washington State Fair... go figure...
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As to the park, carry on.... However,
AGO Opinion 1994 No. 1
For these reasons, we believe the term "used exclusively" in RCW 9.41.280 refers to sole use, possession, or control of a facility, regardless of the duration of the use.
School Zone Info...
The Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990 (18 U.S.C. § 922(q)
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm—
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
(iii) that is— (I) not loaded; and (II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;
I assume you are talking about the "Washington State" Fair in Puyallup. Here is a link to the discussion about it.
My two cents: The fair does not have metal detectors. The fair is on private property and they post that no weapons allowed. I do not have a CPL, so open carry will not get me in the gate. If you are properly concealed carrying, then no one will know you have a firearm. The most they can do is ask you to leave. Would you want to be in a heavily populated public (GFSZ) event without your personal protection? There is minimal police/security which leaves the ratio of people to LEO in bad odds for an emergency situation. I now choose not to go to the fair until I can either open carry there or conceal carry legally.
I am not a lawyer, you should verify property/parcel ownership and contact a lawyer if you need a real opinion.
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I believe it had been mentioned before that to washington state, the term weapons does not mean firearms.