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    Woodbridge, Va. mom charged after firing gun into air to scare off daughter’s attacke

    "A Woodbridge woman was arrested after she shot a handgun into the air to scare off a group of boys who were attacking her daughter. Lakisha Gaither, 35, said she fired a single round into the sky from her legally registered gun Saturday night after a boy punched her daughter in the face during a dispute near their home. “I just wanted this group of guys to disperse,” Ms. Gaither said. “I didn’t know what they were going to do. I wanted him to stop hitting my child.”

    “You can’t fire into the air,” Officer Perok said. “Once something goes up, it comes down. There’s the possibility of causing property damage, injuring someone or killing someone. In an apartment complex, the odds of that bullet coming down and striking something are very high.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...air-to-scare-/

    The odds are, in that cops vernacular, infinite that the bullet will come down and strike something. And, like a shot fired inside an aircraft, quite unlikely to do material damage. ~10^-7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    "A Woodbridge woman was arrested after she shot a handgun into the air to scare off a group of boys who were attacking her daughter. Lakisha Gaither, 35, said she fired a single round into the sky from her legally registered gun Saturday night after a boy punched her daughter in the face during a dispute near their home. “I just wanted this group of guys to disperse,” Ms. Gaither said. “I didn’t know what they were going to do. I wanted him to stop hitting my child.”
    When did Virginia start registering handguns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grylnsmn View Post
    When did Virginia start registering handguns?
    When poor reporting infiltrated the media. Same way they describe it as a shooting - "The shooting occurred at 9:20 p.m. in the 13600 block of Cridercrest Place.". She fired the gun; shooting implies that a person was shot.....I know, semantics. Just more bad reporting that leads the reader to the wrong understanding.



    She should know that warning shots are never authorized. You only fire the gun in self defense or the defense of another. If she felt that her daughter was going to meet with serious bodily injury or death by the assault, she should have shot the attacker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    ". She fired the gun; shooting implies that a person was shot
    They may be.....They're still waiting for the bullet to come down

    Watch the skies Officer Perok......that'll be your job from now on.
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    but But BUT.... Crazy Uncle Joe Biden said we could!!! This is NOT FAIR!!! I'm calling Uncle Joe and we will see about this!!!

    ok I'm done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Diealotz View Post
    but But BUT.... Crazy Uncle Joe Biden said we could!!! This is NOT FAIR!!! I'm calling Uncle Joe and we will see about this!!!

    ok I'm done
    Uncle Joe only said we could shoot double-barrelled shotguns through doors, or up in the air on our back porches.

    What we need is User to again remind us that warning shots are going to always get us into trouble, but if we purposely shoot the person creating the imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury we will most likely (on certain days when you hold your tongue just right and the wind is coming from the correct direction, etc.) get off with just some hefty legal fees. And maybe getting sued by the shootee or their heirs and assigns.

    On a kinder, more gentle note, perhaps if more folks did that instead of firing warning shots there would be fewer imminent threats.

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    In a 10 on 2 situation brandishing would have been called for, in such a way as you were aiming for the main aggressor. The situation would have either gotten better, the boys dispersed, or worse. In which case, opening fire would have been justified as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Uncle Joe only said we could shoot double-barrelled shotguns through doors, or up in the air on our back porches.

    What we need is User to again remind us that warning shots are going to always get us into trouble, but if we purposely shoot the person creating the imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury we will most likely (on certain days when you hold your tongue just right and the wind is coming from the correct direction, etc.) get off with just some hefty legal fees. And maybe getting sued by the shootee or their heirs and assigns.

    On a kinder, more gentle note, perhaps if more folks did that instead of firing warning shots there would be fewer imminent threats.

    stay safe.
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    She fired a justified shot at the perp to stop the threat of her daughter getting ready to be severely assualted. Sorry she was a terrible shot, and missed the target...She aimed a little high..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dawg View Post
    She fired a justified shot at the perp to stop the threat of her daughter getting ready to be severely assualted. Sorry she was a terrible shot, and missed the target...She aimed a little high..
    It's not like the highly trained and motivated cops have never missed. I wonder where their boolits went?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Uncle Joe only said we could shoot double-barrelled shotguns through doors, or up in the air on our back porches.

    What we need is User to again remind us that warning shots are going to always get us into trouble, but if we purposely shoot the person creating the imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury we will most likely (on certain days when you hold your tongue just right and the wind is coming from the correct direction, etc.) get off with just some hefty legal fees. And maybe getting sued by the shootee or their heirs and assigns.

    On a kinder, more gentle note, perhaps if more folks did that instead of firing warning shots there would be fewer imminent threats.

    stay safe.
    I called Crazy Uncle Joe and he said that you are wrong and I can fire shot out of my rifle or pistol into the air. So take it up with Crazy Uncle Joe

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    Yeah, she's lying, she's a dimwit.

    If she'd have just clammed up and not ADMITTED she fired a shot (or where and how) she would not have been arrested.

    And if she could 'step away' from the argument she was not in danger and her daughter wasn't also - thus she's lying.

    I'm really surprised Daniel is representing her - but, truth is she needs help, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dawg View Post
    She fired a justified shot at the perp to stop the threat of her daughter getting ready to be severely assualted. Sorry she was a terrible shot, and missed the target...She aimed a little high..
    Ding, Ding, Ding....We have a winner. Never fire a warning shot You feared for your life, you fired and missed.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Quote Originally Posted by grylnsmn View Post
    When did Virginia start registering handguns?
    I heard insurance companies were demanding registration due to the huge number of firearms lost in boating accidents.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    It's not like the highly trained and motivated cops have never missed. I wonder where their boolits went?
    In NY the stray bullets from cops go into innocent's in the area....

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Uncle Joe only said we could shoot double-barrelled shotguns through doors, or up in the air on our back porches.

    What we need is User to again remind us that warning shots are going to always get us into trouble, but if we purposely shoot the person creating the imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury we will most likely (on certain days when you hold your tongue just right and the wind is coming from the correct direction, etc.) get off with just some hefty legal fees. And maybe getting sued by the shootee or their heirs and assigns.

    On a kinder, more gentle note, perhaps if more folks did that instead of firing warning shots there would be fewer imminent threats.

    stay safe.
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundar View Post
    Ding, Ding, Ding....We have a winner. Never fire a warning shot You feared for your life, you fired and missed.
    See, that's insightful.

    Does anyone remember Clayton Moore's portrayal of the Lone Ranger? It always amazed me how the guy could expertly shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand -- no muss, no fuss.

    That's Science Fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    See, that's insightful. Does anyone remember Clayton Moore's portrayal of the Lone Ranger? It always amazed me how the guy could expertly shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand -- no muss, no fuss. That's Science Fiction.
    yeah well, they all carried Fifty-six-shooters too, the old horse opera heroes. Thanks GOoDness that's the TV I was reared on, and not post-modern colorful noisy sound and fury signifying nothing.
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    Yeah I have no idea why people TELL the cops 'I fired one in the air'. Just ignorance, I guess...or listening to Uncle Biden.

    I really think had she just shut up she'd not have been arrested. How do you prove someone fired a gun into the air unless they admit it or volunteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    ... How do you prove someone fired a gun into the air unless they admit it or volunteer.
    Gun Shot Residue is definitive and probative.
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    Serious question...

    Ok, given she should have fired into the ground and not into the air.

    There you are, your daugher is surrounded by several guys, who are assaulting her. They are clustered around her and beating the crap out of her. You unholster your "legally registered firearm (sic)" and want to protect her. You can't fire directly at the assailants because they are clustered around her and in your shaking adrenalin induced state fear that you will strike her instead of said assailant(s). What do you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Gun Shot Residue is definitive and probative.
    I doubt it. There has to be RAS to examine someone's gun. How do they know who had a gun. The woman was on foot. Even so who's to say it wasn't fired recently at a range? There's no evidential link to follow. If she had kept her mouth shut they got nuthin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Gun Shot Residue is definitive and probative.
    GSR on the perp's hands.
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    epends on the county/judge

    Quote Originally Posted by jegoodin View Post
    Serious question...

    Ok, given she should have fired into the ground and not into the air.

    There you are, your daugher is surrounded by several guys, who are assaulting her. They are clustered around her and beating the crap out of her. You unholster your "legally registered firearm (sic)" and want to protect her. You can't fire directly at the assailants because they are clustered around her and in your shaking adrenalin induced state fear that you will strike her instead of said assailant(s). What do you do?
    I would fire a shot (into the ground for attention and so you know where it lands) and claim that I was aiming at the offender whom I felt was causing me to fear for my life and the life of my daughter. No law against that in a 10-2 situation, and in Surry county, the judge will dismiss the charge.

    Remember what to tell the police and stick to it. I WAS IN FEAR FOR MY LIFE, (REPEAT OFTEN)
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