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    Thumbs down California is not America.

    I left that place 11 years ago and I don't miss it in the slightest... I was actually considering visiting for Christmas this year but I can't bring myself to spend 1˘ in the Great Gun Grab State. I feel sorry for those of you that live in California and I hope you are fighting to reclaim the state. If you're not, you probably shouldn't be there... You're always welcome down south anytime you come to your senses.
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    Keep them in CA .... I don't want to see any more antis ... I see enough as it is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Keep them in CA .... I don't want to see any more antis ... I see enough as it is...
    Should I be offended by the assumption that all native Californians are anti-gun?

    The hard truth is, we need more pro-gun people to move INTO California purposefully to tip the balance of our battleground into our favor. As it stands, our legislature is dominated by progressive urban democrats, and they get almost everything that they want.

    I say almost, because their efforts to ban semi-auto center-fire rifles with detachable magazines was stymied by a veto from Governor Jerry Brown. There is no doubt they will renew their efforts to disarm gunowners next season, which is all the more reason to help Californians fight- either by donating to organizations active in restoring the 2A, or lending your support in this next election season to pro-gun candidates who will be seeking seats in our state legislature.
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    For those that don't like California just realize that your state is going to end up like California........for certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    For those that don't like California just realize that your state is going to end up like California........for certain.
    I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. There are way too many conservative pro-gunners here in the south for this to happen.

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    Don't get complacent!!

    To bahabandit and others who may think the same, be careful of becoming complacent. There may be a lot of pro gunners in the South, but I see much unnecessary bickering between and among them at least on this site. By splitting their votes and/or sitting out an election, an anti gunner could sneak through. Look at McAuliff in Virginia, Crist in Florida, and others I can't think of at the moment. Pro gun candidates seem to have a knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Vote, vote, and vote in every election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjpro2a View Post
    To bahabandit and others who may think the same, be careful of becoming complacent. There may be a lot of pro gunners in the South, but I see much unnecessary bickering between and among them at least on this site. By splitting their votes and/or sitting out an election, an anti gunner could sneak through. Look at McAuliff in Virginia, Crist in Florida, and others I can't think of at the moment. Pro gun candidates seem to have a knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Vote, vote, and vote in every election.
    I vote in every election I can and also preach to my Marines to do the same. I agree with you in Virginia and Florida but those states have always been a little wishy washy. The rest of the Southern States like Alabama where I am from and NC where I am stationed have no chance of becoming a blue state. We must all stick together and not allow ourselves to become complacent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. There are way too many conservative pro-gunners here in the south for this to happen.
    Hispanics reproduce at a much faster rate than whites. Its just a matter of time.


    Don't forget that California used to be a solid republican state until Hispanics overran the state.

    Whites now make up only 50% of California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    Hispanics reproduce at a much faster rate than whites. Its just a matter of time.


    Don't forget that California used to be a solid republican state until Hispanics overran the state.

    Whites now make up only 50% of California.
    There are many factors to consider how this is happening -

    Who uses their labor?
    Why are not those people being aggressively prosecuted?
    Is there really a true "want" to end illegal immigration by those in power?


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    Haven't been here in a long time . . .

    Monaco, I totally agree with your assesment of Cali. I left the CSSR in my heart way back in 1991-2. Left in body in 1996. I now hate to admit I was even born there. . . .

    I didn't think much about carrying until I was a victim of a home invasion robbery in 1991 by two convicted felons who used firearms during the crime. They did two years.

    Afterwards, when I wanted to carry in Cali, I was charged a couple times with CA PC 12025, just because they weren't in a seperate and locked case (once, the lock was ripped off by the LEO), and once of CA PC 12031. Really? What good is having a firearm that isn't loaded??? Long story short, Cali wanted me to do 60 days and become a convicted felon. Really? I fought and got a misdemeanor and did 100 days instead.

    Then I moved to AZ. And life there was good back in 1996. Even better now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyearp View Post
    CSSR
    LOLOL...... I usually call it the Kommunist state of Kalifornia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    Should I be offended by the assumption that all native Californians are anti-gun?

    The hard truth is, we need more pro-gun people to move INTO California purposefully to tip the balance of our battleground into our favor. As it stands, our legislature is dominated by progressive urban democrats, and they get almost everything that they want.

    I say almost, because their efforts to ban semi-auto center-fire rifles with detachable magazines was stymied by a veto from Governor Jerry Brown. There is no doubt they will renew their efforts to disarm gunowners next season, which is all the more reason to help Californians fight- either by donating to organizations active in restoring the 2A, or lending your support in this next election season to pro-gun candidates who will be seeking seats in our state legislature.
    The hard truth is that California has more problems that have nothing to do with guns or the 2A. The gun crab is not even anywhere near the top of my list as to why California should be detached from the mainland, tethered to the Pacific Ocean floor, beyond the 200 mile limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    I vote in every election I can and also preach to my Marines to do the same. I agree with you in Virginia and Florida but those states have always been a little wishy washy. The rest of the Southern States like Alabama where I am from and NC where I am stationed have no chance of becoming a blue state. We must all stick together and not allow ourselves to become complacent.
    Red and blue might mean something on the national level, but it means nothing at the state level. Here in Kentucky, Democrats have done more for our gun rights than anyone. There have been several excellent bills originate in the Democrat controlled House only for them to die in the Republican controlled Senate. This is because in Kentucky we tend to vote for the person and not the party, and it hasn't let us down yet.

    We should never vote for someone just because they belong to a particular party. In fact, we should eliminate parties altogether in my opinion, so then people could focus on the people that they are electing instead.

    Kentucky is half red and half blue, yet we have better gun laws and protections than both of the states you mentioned, North Carolina and Alabama. I'm a registered Republican by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KYGlockster View Post

    We should never vote for someone just because they belong to a particular party. In fact, we should eliminate parties altogether in my opinion, so then people could focus on the people that they are electing instead.
    I agree with this statement but until we get some common sense in government and the people of the states that I named become unpolarized, it would never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYGlockster View Post
    We should never vote for someone just because they belong to a particular party. In fact, we should eliminate parties altogether in my opinion, so then people could focus on the people that they are electing instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KYGlockster View Post
    Red and blue might mean something on the national level, but it means nothing at the state level. Here in Kentucky, Democrats have done more for our gun rights than anyone. There have been several excellent bills originate in the Democrat controlled House only for them to die in the Republican controlled Senate. This is because in Kentucky we tend to vote for the person and not the party, and it hasn't let us down yet.

    We should never vote for someone just because they belong to a particular party. In fact, we should eliminate parties altogether in my opinion, so then people could focus on the people that they are electing instead.

    Kentucky is half red and half blue, yet we have better gun laws and protections than both of the states you mentioned, North Carolina and Alabama. I'm a registered Republican by the way.
    Maybe we can have "blind elections". Where people vote on positions instead of actual people and then the winner is the candidate with the most matching positions that they ID prior to the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. There are way too many conservative pro-gunners here in the south for this to happen.

    Open carry anywhere in FLA. to see just how KALI it really is.

    California is THE REASON I fail to trust the NRA in any way with my money/donation. They should be using their MASSIVE new found wealth on picking/creating cases in every state to reverse Anti-2nd laws, starting in California. California's laws are so unconstitutional it would be a cake walk to win in higher courts (SCOTUS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
    Open carry anywhere in FLA. to see just how KALI it really is.
    I do not consider Florida part of the south. Even though I love Florida it draws way too many Liberal Northerners there and they have fundamentally transformed it into an ever increaseingly blue state.

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    i am unfortunately stationed here, met my wife here as well. She lives in what i call conservative heaven.........Huntington Beach bordering Newport. A lot of people in the area are actually hard core conservatives. On a side not though i hate this f*cking state. Just last week the city of Hutnington BEach outlawed plastic bags and if you get groceries or anything else its .10 cents for paper bags.

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    Government limiting consumer choice is not a conservative principle. Or, did the people vote to ban the bags. Either way, Huntington Beach is clearly not a conservative enclave in CA.

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    Fountain Valley is a city within and between newport/huntington beach if you go down warner and newland whiach are the cut off streets for the city limits. I understand politics thank you i understand what is and is not conservatism. The law was passed without anyone really knowing and is in the process of being over turned because of sister companies such a 7-11, vons, stater etc. losing money to fountain valley because its an extra 2-5 min drive for the convenience

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    The City Fathers are elected positions, are they not? How could the electorate not know how these politicians would vote on this subject.....in a California town.

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    Fountain Valley is what Californians would call conservative. The rest of America would call it slightly left of center and moving farther left everyday.

    Like most cities in California, Fountain Valley used to look a certain way but new people have moved in and it looks different now.

    The new people vote differently.

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