davidmcbeth
Banned
If Ed wants to say something, he can post. You cannot speak for what Ed has or has not done...unless you walk around with him 24/7.
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Exiting from opencarry.org because of davidmcbeth's obsession
- Thread starter Edward Peruta
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If Ed wants to say something, he can post. You cannot speak for what Ed has or has not done...unless you walk around with him 24/7.
eye95
Well-known member
It's a right, so he wants the permission slip for the privilege??? Dumb.
eye95
Well-known member
He was not speaking for Ed. He spoke about him (IMO, in a very credible way).
As usual, you are arguing against unreality.
davidmcbeth
Banned
Sorry Maverick, avert your eyes !
Seems as if ctcarry still has issues that I treated some government officials who are friends of theirs poorly years ago ... poor poor guberment officials ... I made them angry and sad.
davidmcbeth
Banned
Are you the one who posts in the Ohio forum for folks not in Ohio to butt out?
eye95
Well-known member
That is a misrepresentation of what I said. I actually welcome most non-Ohioans to post in the Ohio forum.
I think it is obvious why I (and many others) object to your trolling of Ohio (and all the other State) forums.
Rich B
Regular Member
Note that he wants it, but has never received it, despite all of the claims of how no one knows the law like he does.
davidmcbeth
Banned
Ed doesn't like me over one incident and has been trolling me ever since. The incident? I went out for a smoke at a BFPE hearing and Ed was telling a gun owner that he could carry his gun (the guy had no permit) as long as he was going to a shooting range (not for a NRA class, just to target shoot) and showed the guy a letter written by a lawyer for DESPP, attorney Thomas Hatfield. Now, I have seen this letter before and its full of garbage.
I told the guy that he would be arrested because I queried the same subject matter with two DAs and 5 police chiefs I was told that without a permit, one would be arrested for this act.
Ed went ballistic and did what Ed does...
Ed is the director of ctcarry.
Its one thing to make arguments over the law; its another to present a person with a defective informal letter from a government official and claim that it offers a person immunity from being tossed into prison.
Of course, Ed and attorney Hatfield are friends ...
But even I would not do what Ed had been doing for years ... giving people the impression that the government allows one to do something when that act would clearly cause a person, relying upon the information being provided by the director of ctcarry as being accurate, to be subjected to a prison sentence.
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eye95
Well-known member
You just go on thinking that is why he does not like you.
Again, you are arguing with unreality. Macbething.
Of course, why does almost no one here like you? Can't be the smoking incident. None of us were there.
I have given you sufficient rope. I will move on to discussing this with others.
Again, you are arguing with unreality. Macbething.
Of course, why does almost no one here like you? Can't be the smoking incident. None of us were there.
I have given you sufficient rope. I will move on to discussing this with others.
BB62
Accomplished Advocate
He's been trolling you? ROFLMFAO
Rather than crying endlessly like an unattended baby, why don't you start your own RKBA organization??
OH!! Let me guess - is it because your life is so empty that you seem to spend most of it on OCDO?
davidmcbeth
Banned
He's been trolling you? ROFLMFAO
Rather than crying endlessly like an unattended baby, why don't you start your own RKBA organization??
OH!! Let me guess - is it because your life is so empty that you seem to spend most of it on OCDO?
Oh my, did your dog die today or something?
Get a grip.
eye95
Well-known member
I have always said that the context of "self-esteem" is always external. Folks always put the locus of self-esteem outside the person. "What you said helped build/destroy his self-esteem."
When folks talk about self-respect, the locus is almost always internal. "He built his self respect."
Phooey on facebook, likes, and self-esteem. Folks should behave in a way that builds their own self-respect.
Rich B
Regular Member
The words and the letter are public for everyone to see:
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...-Pistol-Laws&p=1330054&viewfull=1#post1330054
There is one person here (who you have already successfully identified) who does not speak on the record, tries to suppress any reality and is not a credible witness of anything, apparently. I was, in fact, there during this argument, and I was the person Ed was talking to. I was not a permit applicant either. I can tell you that nothing but what was in the letter was represented. So much so, that the Board of Firearms Permit Examiners requested and received a copy of the letter for helping permit applicants.
Rope indeed...
eye95
Well-known member
Let's see, BB62 criticizes macbeth. macbeth criticizes BB62.
I have met BB62. I respect him and his quite amazing accomplishments for the Right--even if I do not always agree with him.
To which of them should I assign credibility? Which one? Such a dilemma.
I have met BB62. I respect him and his quite amazing accomplishments for the Right--even if I do not always agree with him.
To which of them should I assign credibility? Which one? Such a dilemma.
eye95
Well-known member
All good points.
I would just like to point out that my point was that, since so many people have no respect for macbeth and so few of them were there for the smoking incident, that incident is most likely NOT the reason he is disliked!
He again is arguing against unreality (macbething). He needs to look inside for the problem. It ain't all the others. It's him.
Rich B
Regular Member
I understood. The record in this thread is important though and is being willfully obfuscated and/or lied about.
Like you said... Rope.
eye95
Well-known member
He continually creates his own version of reality--and then argues with it. He macbeths.
davidmcbeth
Banned
So, it is ctcarry's position that what is stated in the letter is accurate information.
People can check on their own as to the veracity of the statement made by Trooper Hatfield. The statue can be confusing to read but when one examines it closely, one learns that Hatfield was wrong. And one can also reference Sec 29-38 for further guidance...relevant section below.
Sec. 29-38. Weapons in vehicles. Penalty. Exceptions. (a) Any person who knowingly has, in any vehicle owned, operated or occupied by such person, any weapon, any pistol or revolver for which a proper permit has not been issued as provided in section 29-28 or any machine gun which has not been registered as required by section 53-202, shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than five years or both, and the presence of any such weapon, pistol or revolver, or machine gun in any vehicle shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this section by the owner, operator and each occupant thereof.
I doubt that DESPP will issue out a similar letter today. Go ahead and try Rich; Hatfield is no longer there and you'll get a fresh perspective on the issue. You'll find that I am correct. One cannot carry or transport a handgun outside the 4 walls of his dwelling w/o a permit.
And the letter itself states that it has no legal effect...the letter should be burned IMO...forgotten to the trash heap of bad letters.
OC for ME
Regular Member
New folks should avail themselves of the information linked to in this thread and then form their own conclusions. New reader: start with the law first and foremost, this is how you stay out of jail.....for the most part. Then read the stuff that refers to the law. When in doubt, come to OCDO and we will tell you what to think and do.
Decisions, decisions...
I say it's a coin toss. Heads BB62, tails Macbeth. BTW, got that 2-headed coin on you?
I say it's a coin toss. Heads BB62, tails Macbeth. BTW, got that 2-headed coin on you?