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    North Carolina State Fairgrounds

    I want to get clarifacation before I open carry there but is it legal to OC at the NC State Fairgrounds? With all of the new laws I am still confused as to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    I want to get clarifacation before I open carry there but is it legal to OC at the NC State Fairgrounds? With all of the new laws I am still confused as to this.
    Good question...looking at the NC State Fair website (http://www.ncstatefair.org/2013/FAQ.htm) I see nothing that mentions weapons at all. Looking at the Wake County GIS, the property is owned by the State of NC (http://maps.raleighnc.gov/iMAPS/index.html) search for "1025 Blue Ridge Road".

    However, looking at: 14‑415.23.Statewide uniformity in the newly updated law per HB 937, I only see it mentioning CC and it looks like the Fairgrounds would be part of that uniformity. Please note that the regular online version of the statutes (at: http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislat...14-415.23.html) has not been updated yet to reflect the changes in HB 937.

    So, my take is that if they don't post it, you MIGHT be "ok" if you OC. BUT...that is only if they do not serve beer, and then you would be "ok" only as long as you have a CHP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    I want to get clarifacation before I open carry there but is it legal to OC at the NC State Fairgrounds? With all of the new laws I am still confused as to this.
    Admission is charged so that would be a no, unless you conceal with a permit. OCing with a permit is really up in the air until a court case comes along to clarify the law. Do so at your own risk. If you do not have a permit read US V Black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Admission is charged so that would be a no, unless you conceal with a permit. OCing with a permit is really up in the air until a court case comes along to clarify the law. Do so at your own risk. If you do not have a permit read US V Black.
    Good catch, WW!! Thanks!
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    Thanks fellas. I have my Alabama CHP which is honored in NC. I may try to OC and see what happens. I will post what happens tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    Thanks fellas. I have my Alabama CHP which is honored in NC. I may try to OC and see what happens. I will post what happens tomorrow.
    do they have internet access which they allow those being booked to use so he can let's us know how it went??

    i am sure it was a fun experience for all concerned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    do they have internet access which they allow those being booked to use so he can let's us know how it went??

    i am sure it was a fun experience for all concerned...

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    There is always someone with a smarta** comment on this forum huh... Anyways I have always been one to push the envelope, so we will see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    There is always someone with a smarta** comment on this forum huh... Anyways I have always been one to push the envelope, so we will see what happens.
    In "it's" short time here I have seen little or nothing of a positive contribution. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    Thanks fellas. I have my Alabama CHP which is honored in NC. I may try to OC and see what happens. I will post what happens tomorrow.
    Just be sure to carry and use a recorder...and if you are not going alone, see if someone else can also do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina guy View Post
    Just be sure to carry and use a recorder...and if you are not going alone, see if someone else can also do the same.
    I am going with just my wife. I will definitely record what happens. Might be an exciting time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina guy View Post
    In "it's" short time here I have seen little or nothing of a positive contribution. :-)
    it never ceases to amaze me how supposedly intelligent individuals revert to name calling and insults like they were still in junior high school...

    so unbecoming someone of the uniformed services

    nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    it never ceases to amaze me how supposedly intelligent individuals revert to name calling and insults like they were still in junior high school...

    so unbecoming someone of the uniformed services

    nice

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    (*shrug*) If it makes you feel better:

    In his short time here I have seen little or nothing of a positive contribution. :-)


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    come on CGUY, even a negative comment can be used for the good. you just need to know where it comes from, but i do agree
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    Being two days later I would like to see how this turned out. I chose to leave mine in the car and was thankful when I walked through the metal detector. I had to tag and leave my SOG pocket knife at the gate as they had a "no weapons" policy clearly posted. I can only imagine the same would have gone for my gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa bear View Post
    come on CGUY, even a negative comment can be used for the good. you just need to know where it comes from, but i do agree
    True. I have just learned less and less patience as the years (decades) go on for internet trolls. I suppose the usual best advice is simply "do not feed the trolls".
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    Quote Originally Posted by eNomineZerum View Post
    Being two days later I would like to see how this turned out. I chose to leave mine in the car and was thankful when I walked through the metal detector. I had to tag and leave my SOG pocket knife at the gate as they had a "no weapons" policy clearly posted. I can only imagine the same would have gone for my gun.

    Kinda figured that was going to be the case.
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    hummm guess i might have been right after all, they don't have internet access in the booking area since it has now been three days since the envelope was pushed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina guy View Post
    True. I have just learned less and less patience as the years (decades) go on for internet trolls. I suppose the usual best advice is simply "do not feed the trolls".
    truly for such sagacious individual with so much to offer to our readers, your mentality just doesn't suit you at all, especially since it is beginning to digress to elementary school taunts...

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    So this is what happened. I OC'ed up to the entrance and saw NO WEAPONS, NO ALCOHOL, and NO ANIMALS signs posted all over the gates. There were state troopers everywhere and I got no comments up to the gate. They had metal detectors and were searching bags and stuff coming in. My wife did not want me to make a scene so I took my pistol back to the truck and went back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    hummm guess i might have been right after all, they don't have internet access in the booking area since it has now been three days since the envelope was pushed.
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    I haven't posted in three days because I work a part time job and I have school work. SOLUS why don't you head down here to JVille one day so we can meet up. I want to meet the smarta** behind the username.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    So this is what happened. I OC'ed up to the entrance and saw NO WEAPONS, NO ALCOHOL, and NO ANIMALS signs posted all over the gates. There were state troopers everywhere and I got no comments up to the gate. They had metal detectors and were searching bags and stuff coming in. My wife did not want me to make a scene so I took my pistol back to the truck and went back in.

    Sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor...and not annoying the wife is a big plus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
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    I haven't posted in three days because I work a part time job and I have school work. SOLUS why don't you head down here to JVille one day so we can meet up. I want to meet the smarta** behind the username.
    you know I had actually planned to meet up w/ron for his luncheon this month down in your neck of the woods but as you might have noticed there was a scheduled meet and greet in the area the same day...did you attend the gala event ron promoted?

    I always look forward to meeting those in the service of our country, even when they regale in addressing those they have never met nor know anything about those individual's background, in such unflattering terms.

    as stated previously, uncharacteristic behaviour from a member of such a noble branch of our armed service!

    that stated, shall we shoot for sometime before the holiday season in December? you know how to contact me to schedule something around your activities.

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    I will be going out for burgers and shooting again next month on the 16th, if anyone is interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahabandit View Post
    So this is what happened. I OC'ed up to the entrance and saw NO WEAPONS, NO ALCOHOL, and NO ANIMALS signs posted all over the gates. There were state troopers everywhere and I got no comments up to the gate. They had metal detectors and were searching bags and stuff coming in. My wife did not want me to make a scene so I took my pistol back to the truck and went back in.
    It's getting harder to have a good time without getting searched, if I had driven all that way I would have put up with it also, but it really grinds my gears when that happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    as stated previously, uncharacteristic behaviour from a member of such a noble branch of our armed service!


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    I guess you have never been around many Marines before have you. We are all loud and obnoxious. If you want nice and polite, go find the the Air Force. I wouldn't consider Marines noble. We are like the bastard child of the Armed Services. Nobody like us except when they need us.
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