OC for ME
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Your expectation does not match the indicated outcome.....unfortunately.
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Judge sends cops and crazy dog to elementary classroom - guess what happened?
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davidmcbeth
Banned
I took the post as a conclusion based on the facts noted in this thread.
I do think that the gov't is trying to acclimate people to unwarranted searches.
Plus, if the cop thought the dog would bite if a kid moved, then he never should have performed the "demonstration" because he must know that 20 kids are not going to sit still ~ especially with a dog hovering about them. Ya cannot get 20 kids to sit still for any reason.
MamabearCali
Regular Member
Who thought this was a good idea? I am so glad the kid will be ok. This is 100% human operator problem.
First a dog should not be trained to bite for simple movement. Second if a dog is trained for that they should not be permitted around children. Third why in the name if all that is holy would you plant narcotics on a child. Do these idiots realize there can and will be social consequences for the child they chose to pick on. Fourth, why would you want to accustom children to being searched......unless it is your plan to do this on a regular basis? If you do, then that is very serious indeed.
Some numbskull owes every parent and child in that class an apology.
First a dog should not be trained to bite for simple movement. Second if a dog is trained for that they should not be permitted around children. Third why in the name if all that is holy would you plant narcotics on a child. Do these idiots realize there can and will be social consequences for the child they chose to pick on. Fourth, why would you want to accustom children to being searched......unless it is your plan to do this on a regular basis? If you do, then that is very serious indeed.
Some numbskull owes every parent and child in that class an apology.
OC for ME
Regular Member
Mom is cool with it, so, no harm no foul.
Your post is dead on right. The cops need to be held to account and that dog needs to be put down. A cop would shoot my dog if the situation were reversed.
MamabearCali
Regular Member
Not just the cop. Everyone who said "good idea, put a dog trained to bite people in with wiggly kids" needs to be called to account. This was a stupid idea. Everyone who signed off on it along the way needs to have a share in this pie.
Now as to whether to put the dog down or not......I make no claim of wisdom. It seems unnecessary to put the dog down for one incident that was instigated by stupid handler/whoever thought this debacle up. It also seems unnecessary to me to shoot dogs because they bark at a LEO's. In my world two wrongs don't make a right. But perhaps I don't see the whole picture.
Now as to whether to put the dog down or not......I make no claim of wisdom. It seems unnecessary to put the dog down for one incident that was instigated by stupid handler/whoever thought this debacle up. It also seems unnecessary to me to shoot dogs because they bark at a LEO's. In my world two wrongs don't make a right. But perhaps I don't see the whole picture.
OC for ME
Regular Member
The dog is a danger to the citizenry. The dog responding to the "oust" command is not relevant in my view. Police dogs are lethal weapons and on the same level as that cop's service weapon. Especially when the citizen attacked by that dog is a defenseless child. A judge would need to make the determination and that is not going to happen it seems.
Incidentally, that kid may very well be traumatized as a result of this incident and now be fearful of all dogs. Well done BPD.
Incidentally, that kid may very well be traumatized as a result of this incident and now be fearful of all dogs. Well done BPD.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
+1 Good post. Two wrongs don't make a right. I do find the hypocrisy that state dogs are more special than the dogs of mundanes.
+1
MamabearCali
Regular Member
Sadly a fear of police dogs and a mistrust of police might serve the child well. What a sad world we live in.
OC for ME
Regular Member
Sadly, I must give you a +1. The citizenry does not give LE a "bad name" LE does. If LE worked as hard to dispel that notion as they do to show off their lethal weapons to children we all would have far less to discuss here on OCDO.
KYGlockster
Activist Member
And we have another reason why dogs should not be used to enforce the law. They should be used for nothing other than confronting DANGEROUS fleeing felons. Other than this use, they should be left at the station or home of the handler.
Does anyone remember the incident where the officer had to shoot the K-9 he was working with because it attacked him instead of the perp? I can't remember where it happened, but it was an excellent show of why using a K-9 is asking for unintended problems.
Does anyone remember the incident where the officer had to shoot the K-9 he was working with because it attacked him instead of the perp? I can't remember where it happened, but it was an excellent show of why using a K-9 is asking for unintended problems.
OC for ME
Regular Member
Dogs should not be used by LE at all.
Firearms Iinstuctor
Regular Member
Now this one of the most intelligence statements yet/S
Havening trained lots of dogs once you train them to bite humans no matter how well trained you can't trust them not to bite.
No matter how well a dog is trained they are no where near perfect.
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
Uh huh.
Those kids were "educated", all right.
Although, for heightened realism, they should have had the kids brings their own dogs to be shot while the heroic canine "officer" is awarded medals for his bravery.
OC for ME
Regular Member
On comment posted.
Very interesting read the comments section is. It seems that the local media is not reporting all that transpired on that day.
OC for ME
Regular Member
http://www.thebraziltimes.com/story/2017654.html
More info emerges. This is getting better by the minute.
More info emerges. This is getting better by the minute.
notalawyer
Regular Member
Appears to me that the judge is trying to distance himself from any responsibility for this fiasco!
davidmcbeth
Banned
Well, what RAS did the judge have to conduct a search on these children? Judge and cops, trying to hide the truth and when they cannot they decide just to muddle the facts.
These parents might change their views about a suit once they get the new obamalama medical bill of 34 trillion dollars, payable w/i 90 days.