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carolina guy said:

There is essentially no such thing as "public" property...all property is owned, including government property. The US was founded on commerce, and all the laws are geared towards that end.

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you could be right. but the government was not set up on "commerce", but all government is anti commerce,or better explained, is "anti economics".

but the term is "public lands" when owned by the government, considering that we the people are the owners. one of the things that have always bothered me is "the public airways"

papa bear said:

you could be right. but the government was not set up on "commerce", but all government is anti commerce,or better explained, is "anti economics".

but the term is "public lands" when owned by the government, considering that we the people are the owners. one of the things that have always bothered me is "the public airways"

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If the government was not setup on commerce, what was it setup on? All activities can generally be grouped into either control and/or resources. The government always protects the vested interests of the people at the top of the food chain, and always has done so.

Also gotta take issue with the idea that "the people" are the "owners". I see nothing that would indicate ownership of any public property on the part of "the people". Got any proof of this ownership?

carolina guy said:

If the government was not setup on commerce, what was it setup on? All activities can generally be grouped into either control and/or resources. The government always protects the vested interests of the people at the top of the food chain, and always has done so.

Also gotta take issue with the idea that "the people" are the "owners". I see nothing that would indicate ownership of any public property on the part of "the people". Got any proof of this ownership?

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saying the Government was set up for commerce is like saying it was set up for Socialism. don't know if i can convey what i want to say but here goes

the government does not always side with the Big business. if you look through history there is a flucuation in freedoms. big business often gets a bad rap the same as the Jews did in Germany. they are the ones targeted. most regulations harm the smaller business more, because they can't comply, and make money, like the bigger ones do

you and i do own the government. but like an unruly servant. they do what we let them get away with. lets say you have a problem that would be illegal (wrong) to handle your self. say you wanted more money. you could send that servant to rob your neighbor at gun point, of course the problem is the neighbor has a servant too (might be the same one). now as long as it is one on one there is no problem. the problem comes when the neighbor's neighbor might agree with him and send the servant to your house