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    MA Obamascare website wrongly labels users, mental inmates and prisoners. 2A impact?

    "Massachusetts residents’ frustration at attempting to enroll online in Obamacare has reached maddening levels, as the state website’s systemic flaws have forced many to be incorrectly categorized as mental inmates and prisoners. [ ... ] Adam Romanow of South Boston said he hit a wall on the website Wednesday night, when he answered ‘No’ to a question asking if he’s currently 
incarcerated. “It immediately brought up, ‘We couldn’t electronically verify your incarceration status. Please submit proof of your incarceration,’” Romanow said. “It was crazy … I’ve never had handcuffs on in my life.” Nancy Wilde, who lives in a Boston suburb, clicked “No” to a question on the website — and was then asked if she was locked up in a mental hospital or awaiting arraignment.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...fies-users-me/

    Isn't it amazing that Obabascare defaults to a 2A disability potential?
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    Anyone who goes to the guberment for help deserves to be put into the loony bin.

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    I don't care what happens to folks applying to steal my money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    I don't care what happens to folks applying to steal my money.


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    They have a gun to their head too. Don't lose sight of the bigger picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brace View Post
    They have a gun to their head too. Don't lose sight of the bigger picture.
    No, they don't. They can get up off their asses, earn some of their own money, and buy their own insurance. Then, and only then, will they earn my sympathy for the law forcing them to buy insurance, as it forces me.


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    That response is so incoherent that the only principles I can ascribe it to are the principles of laziness and the just world fallacy. So if a person is forced to pay money for something but not enough money by whatever unstated standard you're using then it's just ******* fine for the state to deprive them of rights? These sorts of divide and conquer strategies are going to get a lot of leverage thanks to your type.

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    My sentiments are directed at those who are getting government subsidies (read: my money) to help them buy what they are being forced to buy. If you can't grasp that, I don't care. Most folks can.


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    That doesn't change anything. They're still forced into a trade. By free market premises that still means it's a disutility to them. The fact that it's a disutility to you as well doesn't say anything about them.

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    They choose to be in a socialist system. If it f's them over, thhhbbbttt. They deserve it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    No, they don't. They can get up off their asses, earn some of their own money, and buy their own insurance. Then, and only then, will they earn my sympathy for the law forcing them to buy insurance, as it forces me.
    You are a complete idiot.

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    Considering the source, I consider that a compliment!


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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    My sentiments are directed at those who are getting government subsidies (read: my money) to help them buy what they are being forced to buy. If you can't grasp that, I don't care. Most folks can.

    There are a lot of people who intentionally choose to have a lower income and now you are criticizing them ?

    The people with low incomes have two choice under Obamacare.......Either buy a private insurance plan and pay about 50% of their entire income OR go on government program that has subsidies.

    How can you blame people for choosing the government plan ? It wasn't their choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brace View Post
    That response is so incoherent that the only principles I can ascribe it to are the principles of laziness and the just world fallacy. So if a person is forced to pay money for something but not enough money by whatever unstated standard you're using then it's just ******* fine for the state to deprive them of rights? These sorts of divide and conquer strategies are going to get a lot of leverage thanks to your type.
    I think you are basing some of your response on the premise that health insurance/health care (HC) is a right.

    Speaking to that ... I don't think that HC is a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    No, they don't. They can get up off their asses, earn some of their own money, and buy their own insurance. Then, and only then, will they earn my sympathy for the law forcing them to buy insurance, as it forces me.


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    Just have them read the F ine law.

    Obamacare is evil period and it's unconstitutional.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    please explain why anyone would choose this option?????

    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    There are a lot of people who intentionally choose to have a lower income and now you are criticizing them ?
    You're statement is completely confusing to me. Unless of course you are referring to someone who has taken a religious vow of poverty. Other than that, I'm not sure why anyone would "choose" to have a lower income when it obviously impacts the ability of themselves and their family to survive and prosper. Unless of course you are referring to those that "choose" to "sponge" off the rest of society............... because there is a system out there paid for by the rest of us fools to allow those who want to scam everybody else to do just minimally enough to get along on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RK3369 View Post
    You're statement is completely confusing to me. Unless of course you are referring to someone who has taken a religious vow of poverty.
    Is the dollar the only valuation that you know or honor?

    I was a Department of Defense/Navy engineer while many of my peers, some classmates, went to private industry for the big bucks. I retired at 47 y.o., difficult but worth it in the end - particularly as politics and economy have devolved. Some of them are still working.

    ETA: I see that your location is listed as SC. I am the peace dividend realized when Charleston NSY was BRAC'ed out of existence. My closure benefits made me debt free with a nice retirement income and plenty of therapy to realize the blessings.
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    while I appreciate and commend your choice of service...............

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Is the dollar the only valuation that you know or honor?

    I was a Department of Defense/Navy engineer while many of my peers, some classmates, went to private industry for the big bucks. I retired at 47 y.o., difficult but worth it in the end - particularly as politics and economy have devolved. Some of them are still working.

    ETA: I see that your location is listed as SC. I am the peace dividend realized when Charleston NSY was BRAC'ed out of existence. My closure benefits made me debt free with a nice retirement income and plenty of therapy to realize the blessings.
    The BRAC'ed out of existence effect on this local economy was devastating. Property values dropped by 30-50% within months. That certainly didn't help many of the rest of the folks that were here. Besides, I don't suppose you chose the DOD/Navy path because of the prospect of "low income". I'm thinking you felt an obligation to serve your country and our way of life, among other things. I hardly think choosing "low income" was your primary motivation. It just happened that you were willing to accept that aspect of a life of military service. That's fine, your choice is to be commended. I'm referring to those that choose to just do enough to get by on knowing that they can draw more out of the system that has been provided by others, rather than to have the drive and desire to succeed on their own abilities and skills. I work in an agency that provides benefits to those that need them and while there are certainly folks out there that definitely need help, there are also many out there that are satisfied to make an existence out of figuring out ways to work the system to their advantage. I see evidence of that every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I think you are basing some of your response on the premise that health insurance/health care (HC) is a right.

    Speaking to that ... I don't think that HC is a right.
    I'm not.

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