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    Black powder open carry?

    Does anyone know if you can open carry a primitive firearm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan6679 View Post
    Does anyone know if you can open carry a primitive firearm?
    Well, since you can open carry a modern firearm why wouldn't you be able to carry a primitive one?
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    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan6679 View Post
    Does anyone know if you can open carry a primitive firearm?
    Recently I took a CC class here in Benton County. The instructor is a captain with the Benton Co sherriff's office. I asked that very question as the Arkansas statutes specifically name centerfire and rimfire pistols when discussing when you can openly carry. I asked about reproduction Colt and Remington bp muzzleloading revolvers as they are neither centerfire nor rimfire. In class, his response was that since the cap is on at the center of the chamber, it would be considered centerfire...however.....After class he admitted to me that I was correct in arguing that bp revolvers are not defined as firearms under the law as written. But he also added that there is not a judge in the state that would allow that argument in their courtroom as grounds for dismissing firearms charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_rog View Post
    Recently I took a CC class here in Benton County. The instructor is a captain with the Benton Co sherriff's office. I asked that very question as the Arkansas statutes specifically name centerfire and rimfire pistols when discussing when you can openly carry. I asked about reproduction Colt and Remington bp muzzleloading revolvers as they are neither centerfire nor rimfire. In class, his response was that since the cap is on at the center of the chamber, it would be considered centerfire...however.....After class he admitted to me that I was correct in arguing that bp revolvers are not defined as firearms under the law as written. But he also added that there is not a judge in the state that would allow that argument in their courtroom as grounds for dismissing firearms charges.
    This is a perfect example of why folks should not take legal advise from LEOs!

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    Is there a law against carrying a antique firearm openly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Is there a law against carrying a antique firearm openly? Remember what is not illegal is legal.
    That is precisely the problem I have with cop instructors, they are so anxious to sound authoritative that they teach only the legal prohibitions but not the the legal abilities.

    My neighbors, most taught by beardless Sgt. Schultz, generally don't know that guns can be carried in a tavern/bar/restaurant under a number of circumstances.
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    I was wondering because some cities/ counties accept primitive firearms differently. My family in rogers wants to carry, but not get caught up in the legal loophole that is constitutional carry right now.

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    Again, it is either against the law(statute that clearly prohibits it) or it is legal. This is one of the loopholes of the GFSZA it is a federal law that clearly states firearms, and federal law separates antique firearms from firearms. In the act it is only illegal to have firearms in a GFSZ. There is no law prohibiting carry of antique firearms, so there is no need for a law to make it legal, it already is.
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    Black powders are not considered firearms. They would have to be classified as a "dangerous/deadly weapon" but could not be classified as a firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDPrice View Post
    Black powders are not considered firearms. They would have to be classified as a "dangerous/deadly weapon" but could not be classified as a firearm.
    We have a Winner!!
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