pirateguy191
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This was posted by a co-coordinator over at Ohioans For Concealed Carry.
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color of law
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Harassing or claiming ignorance of the law??????? Or the Cops just didn't know?????
The courts will 99% of the time protect the cops.
Back in 2008 an inducing panic charge for open carrying took eight months to get dismissed.
I can't help OFCC. Because, after all, they know everything.
The courts will 99% of the time protect the cops.
Back in 2008 an inducing panic charge for open carrying took eight months to get dismissed.
I can't help OFCC. Because, after all, they know everything.
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Sigger
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Please post a link to this request.
I have documented examples of me being threatened with IP, "a felony", and "if you're walking down the street with a gun, we are going to stop you" (all separate incidents) but those were only threats so I'm not sure what they are looking for.
I have documented examples of me being threatened with IP, "a felony", and "if you're walking down the street with a gun, we are going to stop you" (all separate incidents) but those were only threats so I'm not sure what they are looking for.
pirateguy191
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Here's the link Sigger.
http://www.ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=76966
C.O.L. I believe this would be for ammo to be used in testimony at the Statehouse. Not a matter of knowing everything.
http://www.ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=76966
C.O.L. I believe this would be for ammo to be used in testimony at the Statehouse. Not a matter of knowing everything.
davidmcbeth
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Link asks for login ...
MattinWA
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Yup +1
color of law
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I feel your pain, BUT OFCC have a number of attorneys and one is an assistant prosecutor on the forum. They can't come up with people that have been harassed.
MyWifeSaidYes
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Updated link.
http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=76992
To post, you'll need to register and login. Only an email needed.
OFCC is definitely a different animal than OCDO, but they are focused on pro-gun issues and have feet on the ground in the Statehouse.
I can overlook a LOT of stuff for that particular group effort.
Yes, you have to login in order to even see the Open Carry forum on their site. BFA has the same requirement.
Is that strange? No stranger than the restriction on long gun OC that OCDO has in place.
Different animals, similar goals.
http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=76992
To post, you'll need to register and login. Only an email needed.
OFCC is definitely a different animal than OCDO, but they are focused on pro-gun issues and have feet on the ground in the Statehouse.
I can overlook a LOT of stuff for that particular group effort.
Yes, you have to login in order to even see the Open Carry forum on their site. BFA has the same requirement.
Is that strange? No stranger than the restriction on long gun OC that OCDO has in place.
Different animals, similar goals.
Werz
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Well, one of the best stories of I've heard was published in detail in the OFCC forums, but it might be discredited if anyone learned that a shill called in the MWAG complaint.
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Thundar
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Are you looking for Ohio only or for other states as well?
In the VA forum search for Danbus. The tale of Norfolk PD harassing a black man for open carrying. Norfolk got sued for their Police Department behavior and settled.
JediSkipdogg
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I'll post on here on behalf of the myself and all Coordinators at OFCC. You can say what you want about anything else but in this instance we are looking to help ALL open carriers. Hey, you say we aren't for OC, well, take that comment and.........
Our Legislatures have called us requesting our assistance on HB 203. They are wanting to know the goal behind....
(E) The exercise of a constitutional or statutory right is not, in itself, a violation of this section and does not constitute reasonable, articulable suspicion of criminal activity.
...being added to both 2917.11 and 2917.31. With that added it may help OCers stop being harassed. However, it's going to be a battle to keep that in there and/or get the bill passed with that in there. Unfortunately, our contacts are only requesting arrested and charged cases and not harassed. A few newspapers are also looking at doing articles on that section of the change.
Remember, if you want something changed you need cases or reason to back up the change. A change just to change generally doesn't fly to well with the House and Senate.
If you don't want to help and just want to complain about OFCC and some of there stances then please keep them to yourself at this time. We are trying to help you and complaining about why we do what we do doesn't help the matter at hand. If you want to just post here, post it here and MyWifeSaidYes or myself will pass it on to our contacts.
Our Legislatures have called us requesting our assistance on HB 203. They are wanting to know the goal behind....
(E) The exercise of a constitutional or statutory right is not, in itself, a violation of this section and does not constitute reasonable, articulable suspicion of criminal activity.
...being added to both 2917.11 and 2917.31. With that added it may help OCers stop being harassed. However, it's going to be a battle to keep that in there and/or get the bill passed with that in there. Unfortunately, our contacts are only requesting arrested and charged cases and not harassed. A few newspapers are also looking at doing articles on that section of the change.
Remember, if you want something changed you need cases or reason to back up the change. A change just to change generally doesn't fly to well with the House and Senate.
If you don't want to help and just want to complain about OFCC and some of there stances then please keep them to yourself at this time. We are trying to help you and complaining about why we do what we do doesn't help the matter at hand. If you want to just post here, post it here and MyWifeSaidYes or myself will pass it on to our contacts.
It is a violation of Forum Rules to criticize or attack another gun rights group except for any stance they might have against OC specifically.
That definitely does not seem to be the case with OFCC - in fact I have just registered there.
That definitely does not seem to be the case with OFCC - in fact I have just registered there.
Very well said and thanks for your help
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It is a violation of Forum Rules to criticize or attack another gun rights group except for any stance they might have against OC specifically.
That definitely does not seem to be the case with OFCC - in fact I have just registered there.
MyWifeSaidYes already posted that log in was required to view the forum.
One step at a time - not familar with the site yet and don't really expect to post much at that. Primary purpose wil lbe to see how others view OC and to observe happenings.
MyWifeSaidYes
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To be fair, there HAVE been some anti-OC feelings on OFCC.
Some are still there.
To my knowledge, any people with those feelings are not standing in the way of any OC activity on that forum.
I am an active and avid OC'er. They knew that when they asked me to be their ORC 9.68 Compliance Coordinator.
(Ohio Revised Code 9.68 is our preemption statute, invalidating local firearm restrictions)
When I find, or a forum member points out, a city with laws that violate 9.68, I make contact with their legal counsel and ask them to repeal those laws.
When they don't, we have a new destination for our next open carry picnic!
Some people on OCDO have had bad experiences with OFCC and choose not to go there.
Some people have dismissed them out of hand, having never visited, and have chosen not to go there.
I understand these choices, but I still invite those people to visit.
Some are still there.
To my knowledge, any people with those feelings are not standing in the way of any OC activity on that forum.
I am an active and avid OC'er. They knew that when they asked me to be their ORC 9.68 Compliance Coordinator.
(Ohio Revised Code 9.68 is our preemption statute, invalidating local firearm restrictions)
When I find, or a forum member points out, a city with laws that violate 9.68, I make contact with their legal counsel and ask them to repeal those laws.
When they don't, we have a new destination for our next open carry picnic!
Some people on OCDO have had bad experiences with OFCC and choose not to go there.
Some people have dismissed them out of hand, having never visited, and have chosen not to go there.
I understand these choices, but I still invite those people to visit.
I have never had a bad experience when dealing with other pro gunnies. Now I will say that some experiences have been better than others in the beginning, but I specialize in finding common ground. We stand together - united by our belief in the RKBA. We may show it differently, but hopefully with courtesy towards each other.
I'll be back in a couple of days - as soon as I figure out how to introduce myself on that locked thread :question:
Werz
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If you hadn't joined this forum, you wouldn't be able to post the numerous comments that you do.
Just sayin' ...
eye95
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Making the OC forum invisible to non-members is "standing in the way of OC." As far as your invitation goes, after OC becomes visible at that site, I will explore it as a non-member. After that, maybe I'd join. However, the clearly demonstrated attitude toward OC (making it invisible) keeps me from even looking.
I don't really feel the need to join anyway. I will continue to operate independently; that is true grassroots.
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