sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
This line was brought up in another thread, it was off topic but I think a good point to discuss.
It was in response that the poster believes he has a right to education. To which it was pointed out yes he does but not the right to steal from others for it.
Yet he isn't the only one saying this I have heard this line in other political discussion not on this board that I am part of.
My response is and has been to that if people feel this strongly about it why don't they come and personally take the funds for their education, healthcare, food, etc themselves.
The truth of the matter is it is threat of force, most people are not voluntarily giving up their hard earned wages they need to support their families, to feed themselves or heavens forbid save up for their elderly years when they no longer can work so as not to be a burden upon their loved ones and the state. The reason they do so is because of the threat of force it is that simple, it is human nature to have a sense of self preservation, we know that if we refuse to comply we die. People can cloak it in what ever terminology and political wrangling they want, we can call the dog shite in our yard many euphemisms the truth of the matter is it's still shite.
So again I reiterate if you do not think it's theft then back up your ideology by personally volunteering to go collect what you feel others owe you, don't rely on the armed thugs of the state, or is it because your own sense of self preservation tells you that would be a foolish detrimental thing to do?
It was in response that the poster believes he has a right to education. To which it was pointed out yes he does but not the right to steal from others for it.
Yet he isn't the only one saying this I have heard this line in other political discussion not on this board that I am part of.
My response is and has been to that if people feel this strongly about it why don't they come and personally take the funds for their education, healthcare, food, etc themselves.
The truth of the matter is it is threat of force, most people are not voluntarily giving up their hard earned wages they need to support their families, to feed themselves or heavens forbid save up for their elderly years when they no longer can work so as not to be a burden upon their loved ones and the state. The reason they do so is because of the threat of force it is that simple, it is human nature to have a sense of self preservation, we know that if we refuse to comply we die. People can cloak it in what ever terminology and political wrangling they want, we can call the dog shite in our yard many euphemisms the truth of the matter is it's still shite.
So again I reiterate if you do not think it's theft then back up your ideology by personally volunteering to go collect what you feel others owe you, don't rely on the armed thugs of the state, or is it because your own sense of self preservation tells you that would be a foolish detrimental thing to do?