-
We are now running on a new, and hopefully much-improved, server. In addition we are also on new forum software. Any move entails a lot of technical details and I suspect we will encounter a few issues as the new server goes live. Please be patient with us. It will be worth it! :) Please help by posting all issues here.
-
If you are having trouble seeing the forum then you may need to clear your browser's DNS cache. Click here for instructions on how to do that
-
Please review the Forum Rules frequently as we are constantly trying to improve the forum for our members and visitors.
Asked to remove firearm at Olive Garden
- Thread starter Fibresteve
- Start date
- Status
If a carrier does not tell corporate of a bad experience, especially when against corporate policy, how can you expect any change for the better? You can't complain that their policies are ignored if you are part of the reason they are ignorant of the problem.
Originally Posted by MattinWA
One unfriendly manager (well two in my case, three if you include OP story) have allowed me to conclude that they are not gun friendly.
I have never been asked to leave my home for OC, perhaps that is one good point.
That is disappointing, but I'll take you word for it.
Glad that every one doesn't give up so easily.
Actually, there were MANY here who tried to say very clearly from the outset that Starbucks was only gun tolerant and not gun friendly, and therefore not to push them. We were ignored then, and forgotten now, apparently.
Like GrapeShot mentioned I said nothing of the sort.
Because if you did follow up with corporate they would have fixed the issue. Then you could go back and patronize a restaurant that isn't pro or anti.
Same thing with WalMart you get kicked out. Shoot corporate an email when you get home and the problem is fixed.
Spokane OG's manager may be misinformed. Why not fix the problem? Allow corporate to inform him that they follow state law.
Individually Responsible.
Sent from the back of a black van
Difdi
Regular Member
While it's true, it's also a non sequitur. You're the first person to mention doing any such thing in this thread.
Last edited:
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Good job!
The OP did what he felt was right and it worked out in favor of gun carriers and cleared up a misunderstanding.
Good thing the Vancouver PD and prosecutor didn't get involved, they have a different history with law abiding gun owners.
The OP did what he felt was right and it worked out in favor of gun carriers and cleared up a misunderstanding.
Good thing the Vancouver PD and prosecutor didn't get involved, they have a different history with law abiding gun owners.
MattinWA
Regular Member
I work six days a week, full time parent, home owner, and still spend time at gonzaga making people aware of illegal theft of students firearms (by the school), calls to city parks to get illegal no gun signs removed, and you think I am actively belittling ocdo efforts. I dont have time/care about spending money with my pistol at an establishment that obviously wants neither my money or my gear there.
You Cite this "company policy" BS-
my reply: actions speak louder then words.
Its low on my to do list to force a company to allow me to eat noodles with a pistol.
Low even for my 2A to do list
Last edited:
MattinWA
Regular Member
Nah guy wanted me to call corp. When asked to leave. Unless I missed something, there is no trespass exemption to "call the company" to discus their firearm policy. He went on to say it was my fault. My fault im not in jail? Hmmm
Last edited:
He didn't say not to leave before doing it. You are correct that you need to leave when asked.
But it is very clear now that he also meant to leave first. Why are we still playing a blame game when everyone was right?
MattinWA
Regular Member
he didnt say TO leave before doing it, and insinuated fault. Was i expected to wait in the parking lot while i called Darden and wait for my free meal? Please, i have no time/patience for that & I had a hungry kiddo with me. Why did I not call after I left? A) it was sunday. B) I had promptly filled my belly elsewhere.
Problem solved. They get no more money.
Im simply replying to accusations that I am "at fault" and "belittling" OCDO, and now that I am playing some sort of "blame game"
I address accusations head on. This is a discussion board, is it not?
Last edited:
Maverick9
Regular Member
Bear in mind that just because corporate says it's OK does not mean it's even tolerated. It's begrudged. If something happens you know the establishment is not going to take your side.
If a customer complains, corporate be damned (for example).
My beef is with the 'solution' of putting your firearm in the car and grumbling about it here.
MattinWA
Regular Member
Ya, they gave me that option too. I didnt stick around
Repeat - nothing in this world is perfect.
Your public response is what belittles the efforts of others. You don't want to eat there then don't, but what you say here and how that effects our efforts is my business....officially.
Perhaps a bit more tolerance and understanding of others would be of benefit, no reason to roll over either. That is not a personal attack - it is intended as advice that I would give to anyone. Attempting to accomplish good public relations works.
Last edited:
MattinWA
Regular Member
my public response? I told them their error (at olive garden) then left without commotion. How would it have been better handled at the time?
So OCDO only values opinions of those that are exactly in line with your (collective) established norm. Those who do not fit as cogs in your machine are berated as belittlers, at fault for something (still not sure what) Doesnt leave much room for discussion on the discussion board.
You preach tolerance, yet call me a belittler and start to remind me . of your position of power on OCDO the moment I disagree with your established way of doing things. I cant fight every battle and dont care enough about OG to change their minds. I would rather battle the city, the parks and gonzaga.
Last edited:
Then you miss the point totally. I refer to your reply on this forum (public response) not to how you view Olive Garden. The rest is a bit of an unnecessary rant.
I comend you for what you do.
MattinWA
Regular Member
And I commend you for what you do, sir, and mean no disrespect.
Last edited:
MattinWA
Regular Member
My point is, if they dont want me and my sidearm to be in olive garden, then me and my sidearm dont want to be in olive garden.
Bill Starks
State Researcher
In 2008 I did the fight with Olive Garden in Tacoma. After many email back and forth to corporate, the policy was changed to allow firearms.
- Status