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    First Open Carry Today

    I have been contemplating this all week since registering for CCW class and all the way through the class, which I passed Wednesday night.

    I have been reading up on open and concealed carry and have found both to have so many similarities. I can't submit my app for CCW till Dec 4th so I went to the range this morning to get some practice in and also talked to one of my CCW instructors about getting used to carrying in public either open or concealed. He told me you just have to go out and do it and suggested a quick visit to Wal-Mart while open carrying to see that no one will notice. The conversation gave me enough courage to give it a shot.

    Too far away from Wal-Mart, I went to Meijer in Gahanna and carried in the gas station, put the gun away to be legal while I drove up to the Meijer store and got it back out again. Lots of trouble to do that. Anyway, I went in open carrying with my jacket tucked under the holster on my right belt. Plenty of people around and kids to. The greeter did not notice and I walked all the way back to the ammo section with plenty of people around and even passed some people there getting hunting licenses. Looked at the ammo and walked back out of the store. About 10 minutes or so in the store. Made it back to my truck and put the gun away in the lock box.

    I was nervous all the time and highly aware of my surroundings. I was actually shaking at times. Even this was a short open carry, it gave me the courage to do it more and to get used to it. I am not sure how to describe how I am feeling now about the whole thing. I guess I am still anxious about carrying but I can see myself getting used to it. I did feel the gun was part of me as the new leather holster was stiff so I could feel it hugging my body all the time. New gun, new holster.

    Anyway, I feel good about my decision to carry and will carry more. I just want the CCW so it makes things easier in my vehicle and I can conceal if I want to.

    I feel like I got over a hurdle in my life now. Just thought I would share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flhrci View Post
    SNIP...I was nervous all the time and highly aware of my surroundings. I was actually shaking at times. Even this was a short open carry, it gave me the courage to do it more and to get used to it. I am not sure how to describe how I am feeling now about the whole thing. I guess I am still anxious about carrying but I can see myself getting used to it. I did feel the gun was part of me as the new leather holster was stiff so I could feel it hugging my body all the time. New gun, new holster.

    Anyway, I feel good about my decision to carry and will carry more. I just want the CCW so it makes things easier in my vehicle and I can conceal if I want to.

    I feel like I got over a hurdle in my life now. Just thought I would share.

    David
    Greetings from Arizona David. Welcome to OCDO and to hear you've had your first taste of being an armed LAC (that's Law-Abiding-Citizen) instead of a subject. I am unfamiliar with the laws in your area, but I'm sure someone will come along and address that.

    Since you're new, all I can recommend is:
    1) You OC with a buddy or other more experienced OCers (you could organize an OC dinner, hint, hint)
    2) You (SERIOUSLY) consider buying a voice recorder to carry on you when you OC. This is because the best way to cover your back is with an objective witness that remembers what is said verbatim should you ever have a bad encounter with a scared sheeple. Don't worry though, you'd be in the tiny minority if that ever happens.
    3) You OC around the house for a few days to get used to moving with your carry piece (I think you've seen by now that gymnastics and yoga while carrying are both out of the question) and to break in the holster a bit. I thought I'd miss the look and smell of "new" on my leather holster, but it seems to get better with age (something I don't think can be said about the polymer ones).
    Keep carrying, and try to introduce more people to it.
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    Too far away from Wal-Mart, I went to Meijer in Gahanna...
    Probably a good thing you didn't go to that Walmart so soon after this

    I was nervous all the time and highly aware of my surroundings. I was actually shaking at times. Even this was a short open carry, it gave me the courage to do it more and to get used to it.
    This is normal. Everyone you talk to (open and concealed carriers alike) says something to this effect. It will become more normal. You just have to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbossman90 View Post
    "I was nervous all the time and highly aware of my surroundings. I was actually shaking at times. Even this was a short open carry, it gave me the courage to do it more and to get used to it."

    This is normal. Everyone you talk to (open and concealed carriers alike) says something to this effect. It will become more normal. You just have to do it.
    This is truth. I still remember the first time I OCed outside the house: It's amazing how you can remember so many details from your first time. Now that I remember, that also convinced me to join and start posting on OCDO rather than just lurk and read up.
    Now OC is just another part of me.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Congratulations and welcome to OCDO. It is always good to hear of a fellow Ohioan joining our ranks!

    Others may have more to add, but I'll just comment on the one thing I noted in your post - you said you "put the gun away to be legal" and "put the gun away in the lock box" but you didn't say you unloaded and properly stored your sidearm - if you didn't, you should probably read up on ORC 2923.16 especially section (K) (5) (A) which defines "unloaded".

    Once you have your CHL (Concealed Handgun License) you won't have to worry about unloading and properly storing for transport but until then, please make sure you keep yourself legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    Greetings from Arizona David. Welcome to OCDO and to hear you've had your first taste of being an armed LAC (that's Law-Abiding-Citizen) instead of a subject. I am unfamiliar with the laws in your area, but I'm sure someone will come along and address that.

    Since you're new, all I can recommend is:
    1) You OC with a buddy or other more experienced OCers (you could organize an OC dinner, hint, hint)
    2) You (SERIOUSLY) consider buying a voice recorder to carry on you when you OC. This is because the best way to cover your back is with an objective witness that remembers what is said verbatim should you ever have a bad encounter with a scared sheeple. Don't worry though, you'd be in the tiny minority if that ever happens.
    3) You OC around the house for a few days to get used to moving with your carry piece (I think you've seen by now that gymnastics and yoga while carrying are both out of the question) and to break in the holster a bit. I thought I'd miss the look and smell of "new" on my leather holster, but it seems to get better with age (something I don't think can be said about the polymer ones).
    Keep carrying, and try to introduce more people to it.
    Thanks for the welcome. I will try to find a buddy but I am not sure I know any one that OC's. I am goign to look into a recorder. I have seen that advice many times. Your tips on breaking i nthe holster are appreciated. I will have to do that. Wearing it around the house will help me get used to carrying I think also.

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbossman90 View Post
    Probably a good thing you didn't go to that Walmart so soon after this



    This is normal. Everyone you talk to (open and concealed carriers alike) says something to this effect. It will become more normal. You just have to do it.
    I saw the coverage of the whole thing pretty much on tv yesterday. That very Walmart is the one that is closest to the range. I do not care for Walmart much anyways and it was really too far in the wrong direction. So, I didn't. Appreciate the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    This is truth. I still remember the first time I OCed outside the house: It's amazing how you can remember so many details from your first time. Now that I remember, that also convinced me to join and start posting on OCDO rather than just lurk and read up.
    Now OC is just another part of me.
    I remember that short time pretty well. I was so alert and aware of everyone around me. Felt different from being one of the "Sheeple."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaShooter View Post
    Congratulations and welcome to OCDO. It is always good to hear of a fellow Ohioan joining our ranks!

    Others may have more to add, but I'll just comment on the one thing I noted in your post - you said you "put the gun away to be legal" and "put the gun away in the lock box" but you didn't say you unloaded and properly stored your sidearm - if you didn't, you should probably read up on ORC 2923.16 especially section (K) (5) (A) which defines "unloaded".

    Once you have your CHL (Concealed Handgun License) you won't have to worry about unloading and properly storing for transport but until then, please make sure you keep yourself legal.
    Thanks for the welcome. I did properly put everything away despite how much trouble it was to do so. I just didn't say so. Didn't think I needed to but I do appreciate you checking up on me and trying to keep me legal.

    Currently I am putting the ammo in the bed of my truck under the hard cover and keeping the gun locked in a case in the cab with me. Painful but I think ti works legally as well as protects my guns. Tha tway I have to get otu of my truck to get the ammo to use the gun therefore complying with the law. Might actually be over compliant now that I reread the regs a couple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flhrci View Post
    Thanks for the welcome. I will try to find a buddy but I am not sure I know any one that OC's. I am goign to look into a recorder. I have seen that advice many times. Your tips on breaking i nthe holster are appreciated. I will have to do that. Wearing it around the house will help me get used to carrying I think also.

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    :Facepalm: But I know what it's like not having OCing friends. I'm trying to win over one CC-type guy (not exactly FROM CC to OC, just from occasional to regular carrier), and trying to make a carrier out of a female friend of mine. You can try organizing an OC dinner in your area. Quite a few OCDO members are from Ohio.

    If you post it, they will come.
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    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    To the OP.. I can relate to you. I too had first experience open carrying,one week ago. First place was walmart. I was very self conscious. I felt as tho everyone was watching me,but in reality nobody was paying a bit of attention. Second place I entered was a small fast food place. This was really nerve racking! People did notice my firearm in this place,but nothing was said. After a few more times, I have become less conscious and just tell myself that it is my right and who cares what people think! I am starting to really actually enjoy it. It seems to have quite a positive effect. I find myself being much more polite and engaging in conversation with people. I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flhrci View Post
    Thanks for the welcome. I will try to find a buddy but I am not sure I know any one that OC's. I am goign to look into a recorder. I have seen that advice many times. Your tips on breaking i nthe holster are appreciated. I will have to do that. Wearing it around the house will help me get used to carrying I think also.

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    Hello David,
    I'm just east of Columbus and OC daily
    Anytime you want some company just look me up

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    If you don't do facebook, you can shoot me a PM here, but I don't check them so often,,,,,

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    I vividly remember my first open carry. It had been after encountering a person open carrying in wal mart. I was completely taken aback... I had to ask him if it was legal! He then explained to me of the open carry status in ohio... which got me excited... shortly thereafter I began open carrying around my rural town (not really a public place.. hahaha) and around my house in order to get the feel and to work out the jitters. One night while at the music studio with my bandmate I got hungry, and I decided to walk to wendy's. I didnt want to take my revolver off and decided to let this be my first true testing of the waters for OCing. Needless to say I had a great conversation in line, got my food and left all without hassle or even a nervous glance. ^_^

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    First Open Carry Today

    Welcome David. Lots of good advice in this thread, especially buddy OC and a recorder.

    Don't be put off by isolated instances at Walmart. My experience tells me that every one of them will be resolved in favor of the carrier--unless he got stupid. If asked to leave, leave. No discussion necessary. Work the problem later, even if later is calling the manager from the parking lot. Everyone who has handled an incident in Walmart wisely has come out well. Not always so for the bozo ejecting the carrier.

    I live in Fairborn, not to far away, and go to Columbus often as my son lives there. He OCs from time to time (not often) and even joined as at the rally in January at the capitol. He rarely posts here under the name OMalley.

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    I'm in Columbus often and have family in Westerville.

    We can do a lunch or dinner while OC'ing to help get you used to it.

    There is a meet & greet coming up in December on the east side of Columbus.

    I'm sure you would be welcome to attend. It's at the Hometown Buffet on Chantry Dr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWifeSaidYes View Post
    I'm in Columbus often and have family in Westerville.

    We can do a lunch or dinner while OC'ing to help get you used to it.

    There is a meet & greet coming up in December on the east side of Columbus.

    I'm sure you would be welcome to attend. It's at the Hometown Buffet on Chantry Dr.
    MWSY, is there a date and time set? A buddy and I would like to attend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWifeSaidYes View Post
    I'm in Columbus often and have family in Westerville.

    We can do a lunch or dinner while OC'ing to help get you used to it.

    There is a meet & greet coming up in December on the east side of Columbus.

    I'm sure you would be welcome to attend. It's at the Hometown Buffet on Chantry Dr.
    MWSY, if you would give me some details, I can tweet them. Also, I might be able to grace you all with my gentle presence depending on the date. Maybe OMalley and the new Mrs. OMalley could put in a rare appearance.


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    eye95, please tweet this. Don't forget to invite your favorite co-worker (seriously).

    Here we go:

    HomeTown Buffet
    5805 Chantry Drive
    Columbus, OH 43232

    Monday December 16 2013
    6:00 pm to 8:00 pm or longer

    This is not an official gathering of any group. Just a bunch of OC'ers, CC'ers and other pro-gun types getting together and having dinner.

    The buffet is about $15.

    This location is open carry friendly.

    Forum user BobK from Texas will be there that night.

    I also have it on good authority that a blind man with a CHL will be coming to dinner with us that night!

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    In Ohio, good luck, remember to review the carry rules.

    In addition if stopped, if approached by LEO on foot, do not resist, even if they belly bonk you and try to disarm you. Resisting is a crime and you will be arrested. (see the video of the Guy and his kid walking on foot carrying a firearm, who was arrested when he tried to resist it being handled.)

    If questioned in stores, if told to leave, do not argue, ask for signs, tell the manager or his designee it's legal, be polite, leave your groceries, goods, food on the table and just leave.

    Carry a recorder and practice in the house with a blue gun or an unloaded gun with a snap cap in the house. Have your roommate stop you during the day and question your sanity. Learn to respond politely. See if you can remember to activate your recorder (other times leave it on all day).

    Just as the marines practice with a mock-up of their target, you should be doing dry-runs in the house with a knowledgeable person assisting if you can.

    Practice retaining methods. Remember if you're wearing a non-retaining holster and walking to your car with food and a drink, you could be disarmed (not that many would try). Also if you're not using a retaining holster and leaning over your shopping cart as many do, you could be disarmed by a BG or by the Security Guard (it's happened!) so maintain awareness, pick a good holster, don't be a target, dress cleanly.

    Good luck and welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWifeSaidYes View Post
    eye95, please tweet this.
    I only have 80 or so followers & not sure how many might be from the Columbus area but I've tweeted the event as well. Sure wish I could get out there, sounds like it would be a good time but by the time I left work and drove there it would be over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    In Ohio, good luck, remember to review the carry rules.

    ask for signs,
    If I understand what you meant by this, I disagree. We do not want to suggest to people that they post their businesses.

    If that's not what you meant, then please disregard.
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    He had an ambiguous ccnjunction: "...do not argue, ask for signs,..."

    Does the not apply to the second item in the list? I think so. I think he is saying NOT to ask for signs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaShooter View Post
    I only have 80 or so followers & not sure how many might be from the Columbus area but I've tweeted the event as well. Sure wish I could get out there, sounds like it would be a good time but by the time I left work and drove there it would be over.
    If any are OH carriers, share with them the eye95 twitter feed. It is only used to post carry events such as this. Folks who subscribe will get a small number of messages about the events. We won't bombard them with anything else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9
    ...

    If questioned in stores, if told to leave, do not argue, ask for signs, tell the manager or his designee it's legal, be polite, leave your groceries, goods, food on the table and just leave.
    In other words, do not:
    -argue
    -ask for signs
    -tell the manager or his designee it's legal

    but DO:
    -be polite
    -leave your groceries or goods in the store
    -leave your food on the table
    -just leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9
    ...See if you can remember to activate your recorder (other times leave it on all day).
    Buy a digital voice recorder that can be left on all day. Turn it on when leaving the house. They come in handy for other things you may hear throughout the day, like rude waiters or good jokes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9
    ...don't be a target, dress cleanly.
    Two things...

    1. Dress how you want.

    2. In some areas, dressing cleanly will make you a target.
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    Get and use a retention holster for OC purposes.

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