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    People never cease to amaze me.

    So, im standing in line at wally world, waiting to pick up a tv for which i have the priority wrist band for and such. Light blue jeans, light blue hoodie, big black holster and gun on my hip.

    A woman behind me talking on her phone for the last hour about how she missed the "cultured life" in NYC, has continually 'accidentally' bumped into my butt, and knocked the front bar into my heels.

    The line hasnt moved an inch in half an hour, and ive been bumped and given the stink eye by a lady from NYC behind me.

    Am I being tested to see if i can be provoked into being aggressive or whatever? Or does this chick just like to piss off people carrying guns?

    No, i havent lost my nerve yet, i find it all funny.
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    You already know the answer... New York City.

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    Whats more is a guy in front of the lady ahead of me is loudly talking to their friend about "might need to use your cane, he's a security risk to us all!" He has a local high school hoodie on and a heavy accent. Im starting to feel belittled and pressured into leaving the line, i dont like being ganged up on and made fun of like this, although for once im glad its about my gun and not my sexuality.
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    I open carried on Black Friday at Target in Elizabethtown. I had zero troubles. In fact, those around me said they were comforted knowing that someone was armed. That was 2 years ago and my first and last Black Friday experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Whats more is a guy in front of the lady ahead of me is loudly talking to their friend about "might need to use your cane, he's a security risk to us all!" He has a local high school hoodie on and a heavy accent. Im starting to feel belittled and pressured into leaving the line, i dont like being ganged up on and made fun of like this, although for once im glad its about my gun and not my sexuality.
    You need to call up a friend of your own so you can make plainly-audible belittling comments about all the losers you're standing in line with.

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    I made it home alright, there was a few montgomery county sheriff's deputies there, and a KSP in his car in the front of the store, but never could tell what was what.

    I hope I didn't sound too much like a wimp, but I had a bit of a panic and wanted to establish a baseline post in case I had a bad encounter, or whatever. Other than the incessent "accidental" bumps, knocks, and shoves; and the "he's a risk to us all" or "i bet i could split his head with your cane before he could draw it" loud talk, other than that, nothing bad happened. Although I did see a rent-a-cop unarmed security hang back behind me, caught him checking out my pistol before he just moved away.

    This is the first, and the last time I -ever- do the whole black friday/thursday thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallschirmjäger View Post
    You already know the answer... New York City.

    You spelled the name wrong.... It's NEW YORK SHITY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    I made it home alright, there was a few montgomery county sheriff's deputies there, and a KSP in his car in the front of the store, but never could tell what was what.

    I hope I didn't sound too much like a wimp, but I had a bit of a panic and wanted to establish a baseline post in case I had a bad encounter, or whatever. Other than the incessent "accidental" bumps, knocks, and shoves; and the "he's a risk to us all" or "i bet i could split his head with your cane before he could draw it" loud talk, other than that, nothing bad happened. Although I did see a rent-a-cop unarmed security hang back behind me, caught him checking out my pistol before he just moved away.

    This is the first, and the last time I -ever- do the whole black friday/thursday thing.





    "i bet i could split his head with your cane before he could draw it" loud talk,
    I would have politely told this asshat are you threatening me ? but that's just me. I have had a couple remarks in a crowd similar to that, and my reply was as i told you. never heard another peep from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRM59 View Post
    "i bet i could split his head with your cane before he could draw it" loud talk,
    I would have politely told this asshat are you threatening me ? but that's just me. I have had a couple remarks in a crowd similar to that, and my reply was as i told you. never heard another peep from them.
    Or maybe a little theatrical phone call of your own:

    "Hi Jane - is Bob there - sorry, I just need a quick legal consult - he can put it on my tab. (pause) Hi Bob. Yeah, I'm in line at Walmart and open carrying as usual. You won't believe this but some busybody from New York is running her yap about us uncultured rednecks - that I can ignore, but then some local joker joined in and opined he could split my head with a cane before I could draw it. (pause) Yeah, obviously he hasn't been to the range with me and seen me draw and put two shots in center mass in way less than a second. (pause) OK, you're saying if I feel threatened it's perfectly legal for me to use force against this guy, that's what I thought. Well hopefully he doesn't take it any further and that's not necessary. Thanks."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianB View Post
    Or maybe a little theatrical phone call of your own:

    "Hi Jane - is Bob there - sorry, I just need a quick legal consult - he can put it on my tab. (pause) Hi Bob. Yeah, I'm in line at Walmart and open carrying as usual. You won't believe this but some busybody from New York is running her yap about us uncultured rednecks - that I can ignore, but then some local joker joined in and opined he could split my head with a cane before I could draw it. (pause) Yeah, obviously he hasn't been to the range with me and seen me draw and put two shots in center mass in way less than a second. (pause) OK, you're saying if I feel threatened it's perfectly legal for me to use force against this guy, that's what I thought. Well hopefully he doesn't take it any further and that's not necessary. Thanks."
    LOL Classic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianB View Post
    Or maybe a little theatrical phone call of your own:

    "Hi Jane - is Bob there - sorry, I just need a quick legal consult - he can put it on my tab. (pause) Hi Bob. Yeah, I'm in line at Walmart and open carrying as usual. You won't believe this but some busybody from New York is running her yap about us uncultured rednecks - that I can ignore, but then some local joker joined in and opined he could split my head with a cane before I could draw it. (pause) Yeah, obviously he hasn't been to the range with me and seen me draw and put two shots in center mass in way less than a second. (pause) OK, you're saying if I feel threatened it's perfectly legal for me to use force against this guy, that's what I thought. Well hopefully he doesn't take it any further and that's not necessary. Thanks."



    i like the way you think
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    Drake,NYS is full of as***les, trust me. It's not just NYC. i could tell a story of why I moved to KY even tho i own the place there and am renting down here but, another day maybe. As far as the other ones,well, I like Brian's advise. I have not had any of those problems yet. Have had some inquiries but they have been pleasent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs3604 View Post
    Drake,NYS is full of as***les, trust me. It's not just NYC. i could tell a story of why I moved to KY even tho i own the place there and am renting down here but, another day maybe. As far as the other ones,well, I like Brian's advise. I have not had any of those problems yet. Have had some inquiries but they have been pleasent.
    Every state has it's arsehats, including our own, as evidence by the dude who spoke of the cane. I think I was just more or less shocked and suprised by the sheer aggressive, and hostility I faced by people behind me, and people ahead of me, at a Kentucky wal-mart. I mean, I'd expect something like that if I LGOC'd, or OC'd in say Ohio or in L-ville, but not in a town whose population is just under 3k people. I am thankful, largely in part to my Hi-point brand, and the heavy trigger pull strength, because if I had been carrying my old Taurus PT100, I'm pretty sure I would have had an ND/AD when that chick bumped me with her cart.

    Something that I've honestly had trouble figuring out is this; Okay, I was by far the -MOST- calm, and patient person in line there. People were shoving carts into each other to force their way into a spot in line. My submissiveness and politeness lost me a half dozen spots in line because I didn't want to be rude, and just let someone go ahead of me. To say the least I was just being me, doing what I do. Nothing out of the ordinary. And, because I was OC'ing, I did not want to come across as aggressive, or aggitated in the smallest of ways, just so no one could say "He was yelling and had his gun in his holster and I had to call 911 because I thought he was going to kill me" and such. So, why on earth, would someone think it to be a good idea, to proclaim and brag about harming someone else, who has been calm, quiet, and passive, solely for their gun? WHY would ANYONE think it to be a good idea to bump and hit a guy with a cart while talking about how stupid the locals are? I mean, it would have taken a lot to provoke an aggressive response out of me, short of posing an immediate and real threat to my life, that is. But still... What makes a person think it is a good idea, in general, to try to provoke someone who is carrying a gun?! Would they have said and done the same thing if I was a cop? or if I was LGOCing? What if I had decided to wear a business suit? or what if I opted to wear some thuggish gansta outfits?

    Seriously, I cannot fathom or understand that logic, and it seriously scares me, it scares me that unarmed sheeple are so careless as to put their lives, and the lives of the carrier, in possible danger, just because they can.

    And Brain; That was amusing, and imaginative. I lack the on-the-spot imagination to come up with amusing quips like that, but, I doubt I would have done such a thing, I would have hate to spend the night in a county jail because an anti thought I was threatening them back and had the tool to make it into a real threat and deal with the headaches and such.

    But, this isn't deterring me from OC'ing, if anything, it's made me want to OC my revolver and my Hi-point as well, but I think the sheer weight of both would break my hip.

    Happily though, the iPad line was clear and smooth with no issues whatsoever. I OC'd in the line with no problems at all, a couple stink eyes, but no bumping, shoving, or passive threats. I wonder if affluence has anything to do with confrontation behaviors. Or maybe iPad users are just more stable.
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    Black Friday is the DEVIL!!!! Never ever Ever EVAH go out in public on Black Friday unless it's an emergency

    And LOL at the suggested call to one's lawyer. That's PRICELESS and I approve
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    And Brain; That was amusing, and imaginative. I lack the on-the-spot imagination to come up with amusing quips like that, but, I doubt I would have done such a thing, I would have hate to spend the night in a county jail because an anti thought I was threatening them back and had the tool to make it into a real threat and deal with the headaches and such.
    Yeah, my "suggestion" was just Internet theater. I wouldn't have done it either. I would have been extremely uncomfortable (as you were). I'd have wanted to ask the guy what sort of head injury he had that led him to believe threatening an armed person was a good idea, but I'm very non-confrontational (with or without a gun - but especially with a gun). As soon as you say one word to the guy there's the opportunity for it to go sideways and you're the guy with the gun so you're going to be the one in cuffs.

    I'd have probably just stood there and pretended like I didn't hear him and waited for a seeming eternity until I could be away from the fool(s).
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