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    Anti's posting their own "no gun" signs at businesses without permission?? o.O

    Someone in Greensboro had a pretty weird experience with a positive ending.

    http://www.ncgunblog.com/2013/11/28/...ti-gun-tactic/
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    Defacing the entrance to a business without that business permission IMO is trespass. A owner should press charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesm760 View Post
    Someone in Greensboro had a pretty weird experience with a positive ending.

    http://www.ncgunblog.com/2013/11/28/...ti-gun-tactic/
    Hardly a positive ending .. the lady will still continue ... why not?

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    being the kinda person i am, i had difficulty finding the specific cite's wording on "tortious interference" within the NCGA's site. http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/statutes/statutes.asp

    can anybody provide further insight?

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    James,

    Also keep in mind that a sign posted by someone OTHER than the business is NOT enforceable/punishable under NCGS...if stopped by a LEO for a "conspicuously posted" sign trespass violation, I would ask to verify with the manager that the sign was posted by the business or not. (IANAL)

    Per NCGS 14-415.11(c)(8).


    On any private premises where notice that carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited by the posting of a conspicuous notice or statement by the person in legal possession or control of the premises.

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    § 14-145. Unlawful posting of advertisements.
    Any person who in any manner paints, prints, places, or affixes, or causes to be painted,
    printed, placed, or affixed, any business or commercial advertisement on or to any stone, tree,
    fence, stump, pole, automobile, building, or other object, which is the property of another
    without first obtaining the written consent of such owner thereof, or who in any manner paints,
    prints, places, puts, or affixes, or causes to be painted, printed, placed, or affixed, such an
    advertisement on or to any stone, tree, fence, stump, pole, mile-board, milestone, danger-sign,
    danger-signal, guide-sign, guide-post, automobile, building or other object within the limits of a
    public highway, shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor. (Ex. Sess. 1924, c. 109; 1993, c. 539,
    s. 84; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    § 14-145. Unlawful posting of advertisements.
    Any person who in any manner paints, prints, places, or affixes, or causes to be painted,
    printed, placed, or affixed, any business or commercial advertisement on or to any stone, tree,
    fence, stump, pole, automobile, building, or other object, which is the property of another
    without first obtaining the written consent of such owner thereof, or who in any manner paints,
    prints, places, puts, or affixes, or causes to be painted, printed, placed, or affixed, such an
    advertisement on or to any stone, tree, fence, stump, pole, mile-board, milestone, danger-sign,
    danger-signal, guide-sign, guide-post, automobile, building or other object within the limits of a
    public highway, shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor. (Ex. Sess. 1924, c. 109; 1993, c. 539,
    s. 84; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)
    I can envision a defense lawyer nitpicking this statute as not relevant to the placement of a "no guns" sticker on the window because such a sticker is NOT a "business or commercial advertisement." It is more akin, in my layman's understanding, to a statement or code of conduct poster that prohibits carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCanby View Post
    I can envision a defense lawyer nitpicking this statute as not relevant to the placement of a "no guns" sticker on the window because such a sticker is NOT a "business or commercial advertisement." It is more akin, in my layman's understanding, to a statement or code of conduct poster that prohibits carry.
    It is IMO, it is no different then posting anti gun signs or buying a commercial. It is trying to advertise for no guns, without the consent of the owners of said property. The anti gun or gun control movement is a organized movement that would be recognized as such. I believe those organization are registered as non profit business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    It is IMO, it is no different then posting anti gun signs or buying a commercial. It is trying to advertise for no guns, without the consent of the owners of said property. The anti gun or gun control movement is a organized movement that would be recognized as such. I believe those organization are registered as non profit business.
    +1

    I am pretty sure these anti-2A groups "accept money/goods/services" with the promise that they will do something with the "donation"... looks like commerce to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina guy View Post
    +1

    I am pretty sure these anti-2A groups "accept money/goods/services" with the promise that they will do something with the "donation"... looks like commerce to me.

    To do education or charity for the prevention of gun crimes, deaths, injuries, etc. would not be commerce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    § 14-145. Unlawful posting of advertisements.
    Any person who in any manner paints, prints, places, or affixes, or causes to be painted,
    printed, placed, or affixed, any business or commercial advertisement on or to any stone, tree,
    fence, stump, pole, automobile, building, or other object, which is the property of another
    without first obtaining the written consent of such owner thereof, or who in any manner paints,
    prints, places, puts, or affixes, or causes to be painted, printed, placed, or affixed, such an
    advertisement on or to any stone, tree, fence, stump, pole, mile-board, milestone, danger-sign,
    danger-signal, guide-sign, guide-post, automobile, building or other object within the limits of a
    public highway, shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor. (Ex. Sess. 1924, c. 109; 1993, c. 539,
    s. 84; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)
    I don't think it's unlawful posting of advertisements,

    I think it's vandalism, just like tagging or cutting your name into a wood panel...
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Patriot View Post
    To do education or charity for the prevention of gun crimes, deaths, injuries, etc. would not be commerce.
    I believe the SCOTUS has disagreed with you on a few occasions...they have said that anything that "affects" interstate commerce, is interstate commerce.
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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