We know what VCDL is against.
We do not know what VCDL will promote this legislative session.
It is important that we know what they will support and what they will strongly support before we hitch a horse to their wagon.
I am not trying to start another divisive discussion, just trying to be informed and inform others about all of the VCDL Agenda.
Live Free or Die,
Thundar
I would gladly trade GRNC for VCDL.
when our elected officials look outside and see an ocean of "guns save lives" stickers it just might get their attention.
lets all be there and be an orange ocean!!!
At one time WW, VCDL was what GRNC is. Young organizations simply fight harder.
I often disagree with VCDL's positions,,,there have been years when I didn't like a single thing they did. But I'm still a member because they are really the only show in town and do push for good bills.
Contrary to popular opinion, Constitutional Carry is in their sights. There's no sense in wasting much time this year and I doubt for the next four years though.
Unity...numbers and activism are important now. That's coming hard but hopefully by lobby day, we can all put our differences aside.
One doesn't have to be a member to be active. The membership doesn't nearly equal the Alerts.
There needs to be a giant WE...on lobby day.
I don't know what VCDL's agenda is Thundar....I doubt they have more than a rough outline....It doesn't matter though. Lobby day is for everyone, lots of groups and I'm encouraging hunters to come....not to join VCDL .....rather, to show ourselves as gun owners.
There's also Sunday Hunting.
I'll encourage them to join or not, depending on VCDL positions.
OK, that is fair. Come and support gun rights, not VCDL.
Please reread my most previous post #4.
I did read your post Grapeshot, and I tried to leave it alone.
First, it is not unreasonable to know what one is lobbying for when asked to come to Lobby Day. My question was not meant to instigate any sort of bickering, but to understand what VCDL was going to advocate for this year.
Second, I responded to Peter, who started the thread, and tried to deliver a message broader than VCDL. It was, I thought, the right approach and I agreed to it.
Third, You speak of being a VCDL fair weather friend as if we owe some sort of loyalty to VCDL. Ha! I and others like me have not abandoned VCDL. VCDL has abandoned us with their blind support of Republicans, instead of the most pro gun individuals.
Fourth, VCDL may be the only show in town for YOU, but this is certainly not the case for everybody else.
Live Free or Die,
Thundar
Please do not leave it alone. Give considered weight to the 1st & 2nd paragraphs.I did read your post Grapeshot, and I tried to leave it alone.
First, it is not unreasonable to know what one is lobbying for when asked to come to Lobby Day. My question was not meant to instigate any sort of bickering, but to understand what VCDL was going to advocate for this year.
Second, I responded to Peter, who started the thread, and tried to deliver a message broader than VCDL. It was, I thought, the right approach and I agreed to it.
Third, You speak of being a VCDL fair weather friend as if we owe some sort of loyalty to VCDL. Ha! I and others like me have not abandoned VCDL. VCDL has abandoned us with their blind support of Republicans, instead of the most pro gun individuals.
Fourth, VCDL may be the only show in town for YOU, but this is certainly not the case for everybody else.
Live Free or Die,
Thundar
VCDL has a very extensive "wish list" from Constitutional Carry down to the mundane correction of wording efforts.
The thing that we seem to forget is VCDL does not sponsor the bills. That takes a senator or delegate who agrees with the presentation/proposal, is convinced that it stands a reasonable chance of making it through committees, both houses, and (important this year) will be veto proof.
We will be descending in mass from all over the state.Hm, I should go. It is my birthday that day so it would be a good way to spend a day. Is anybody from the Fredericksburg area going?
We will be descending in mass from all over the state.
Possession of firearms following conviction of certain crimes; penalty. Prohibits any person who is convicted of stalking, sexual battery, or assault and battery of a family member that results in serious bodily injury from possessing, transporting, or carrying a firearm or any other weapon for a period of five years following his conviction. A violation would constitute a Class 6 felony. The bill also provides for the forfeiture of any weapon possessed, transported, or carried in violation of the prohibition. Finally, the bill provides for a process by which a violator may petition the circuit court for a reinstatement of his rights to possess, transport, or carry a weapon.
Possession of firearms following conviction of certain crimes; penalty. Prohibits any person who is convicted of stalking, sexual battery, or assault and battery of a family member that results in serious bodily injury from possessing, transporting, or carrying a firearm or any other weapon for a period of five years following his conviction. A violation would constitute a Class 6 felony. The bill also provides for the forfeiture of any weapon possessed, transported, or carried in violation of the prohibition. Finally, the bill provides for a process by which a violator may petition the circuit court for a reinstatement of his rights to possess, transport, or carry a weapon.
Grape, look at this:
HB 48 Possession of firearms following conviction of certain crimes; penalty.
Marcus B. Simon-Elect
.Possession of firearms following conviction of certain crimes; penalty. Prohibits any person who is convicted of stalking, sexual battery, or assault and battery of a family member that results in serious bodily injury from possessing, transporting, or carrying a firearm or any other weapon for a period of five years following his conviction. A violation would constitute a Class 6 felony. The bill also provides for the forfeiture of any weapon possessed, transported, or carried in violation of the prohibition. Finally, the bill provides for a process by which a violator may petition the circuit court for a reinstatement of his rights to possess, transport, or carry a weapon.
Possession of firearms following conviction of certain crimes; penalty. Prohibits any person who is convicted of stalking, sexual battery, or assault and battery of a family member that results in serious bodily injury from possessing, transporting, or carrying a firearm or any other weapon for a period of five years following his conviction. A violation would constitute a Class 6 felony. The bill also provides for the forfeiture of any weapon possessed, transported, or carried in violation of the prohibition. Finally, the bill provides for a process by which a violator may petition the circuit court for a reinstatement of his rights to possess, transport, or carry a weapon
A Gun-Grabbing bill by a Progressive newbie -- evidently this is what gun-rights activists (of all persuasions) are going to have to deal with.
As Peter said, it's gonna be a L O N G Session.
This bill is plain and simple a GUN GRAB.
I have long been a proponent of common sense restrictions on the purchase and sale of firearms in the Commonwealth. One of the first big victories I remember from my days as Jim Scott's legislative assistant was the passage of Virginia's one handgun a month bill in 1993. Twenty years later how does the Virginia General Assembly respond to tragedies like those we witnessed in Newton Connecticut and on the Campus of Virginia Tech? By repealing the one gun a month restriction in 2013. There was no reason to repeal this common sense legislation in Virginia that had been in place for nearly two decades, except for the NRA and their allies to flex their political muscle in Richmond.
As your representative in the House of Delegates I will be a strong advocate for common sense measures like universal background checks for all gun purchases, even those of so-called private sellers at gun shows. I support limiting the size of magazines, empowering localities to make their libraries and teen centers gun-free zones, and reintroducing one handgun a month legislation.