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A few years back I was in a fist fight that turned into his knife vs my gun. As soon as I drew my weapon he rethought his plan and I was able to hold him at the scene till the police arrived. The BG kept taunting me to shoot him and I made it clear that if he so much as took one step towards me or my inlaws who were about 20yds to my right that I would put one in his head and two center mass. He believed me and no further violence was necessary. A couple of the officers who showed up were buddies of mine (wife was a dispatcher at the time) asked me why I didn't shoot him even though I was well within my rights to do. My answer was because I didn't have to. Had he moved from his spot, I would have.
But.. But.. The Tueller drill teaches us that anyone within 100 yards who is armed with as much as a pair of nail clippers is a deadly threat that can reach you and kill you before you can fire your weapon even if it is already out and pointed right at them and you are the greatest high-pressure marksman that has ever lived. Not shooting is the most foolish thing you could ever conceivably do!!!!
...Or so would say the likely hundreds of police officers who have gotten away with murder with Tueller as their excuse.
Sorry, but you hit on one of my biggest pet peeves with this story (Not your actions, you nailed it. The officers response to your actions is what gets me!). Ever since a Seattle police officer got away clean after gunning down an old, drunk, native american wood carver that wasn't even close to a threat to him I can't help but disparage that stupid drill every time I come across an excuse to do so.
When Tueller DOES NOT APPLY:
1.) Your weapon is drawn.
2.) The individual is not armed with a deadly weapon (unless they are exceptionally large and strong a/o drugged out of their mind).
3.) The individual is more than ~25 feet from you.
4.) The individual is obviously not in good enough health to run nearly as fast as a ~30-year-old man in decent to good shape.
Implied in the above is also this fact.... The PROPER resolution to a Tueller situation is TO DRAW AND AIM YOUR WEAPON.
That was the ENTIRE point of Tueller, to teach officers who are faced with a knife/bat/etc wielding individual to draw and point their weapon. Officers used to sometimes be afraid that drawing would "Escalate" the situation, and Tueller was supposed to get them to draw anyway for officer safety. Now though it is used all too frequently as an excuse in the courtroom for having drawn and fired immediately. Tueller is a valuable drill for officer safety reasons, but it is misapplied and abused, and I really kind of wish it had never been invented.