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    Officer who fired at Runaway fam's mini-van fired.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/video/officer-...011603775.html
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    Anyone see this? The 'tire-shootin' guy deemed over the top. Fired? IDK, I think it's credible he intended to bag him some steel-belted radials. Good thing the guy in the forward flanking position didn't run across his field of fire.

    (Didn't see a posting in the lounge).
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    Fired?

    Of course, the sanctified enforcer caste only gets fired. Where are the charges for reckless discharge? Child endangerment?
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Fired?

    Of course, the sanctified enforcer caste only gets fired. Where are the charges for reckless discharge? Child endangerment?
    +1 As my local city prosecutor James Urb told me "I don't see myself ever prosecuting a cop".
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    glad he was fired.

    my condolensces to eye and walking wolf and prius

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    +1 As my local city prosecutor James Urb told me "I don't see myself ever prosecuting a cop".
    Is he a elected official? Did you get his comments on tape? The Interwebz is a great resource to toss duds like that from public office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Is he a elected official? Did you get his comments on tape? The Interwebz is a great resource to toss duds like that from public office.
    Appointed, now he is the city's disclosure attorney and he works very hard to remove incriminating evidence against cops.

    Yes I did record it, and it is somewhere on my old phone.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Appointed, now he is the city's disclosure attorney and he works very hard to remove incriminating evidence against cops.

    Yes I did record it, and it is somewhere on my old phone.
    Sounds like unlawful behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Sounds like unlawful behavior.
    Yep, but who is going to prosecute. Washington has a horrible record in that regard.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    glad he was fired.

    my condolensces to eye and walking wolf and prius
    Why would we want your condolences? You have some serious mental issues that need a professional. I had not even posted in this thread until now. The officer should be charged with endangering, by now you should no I excuse breaking the law for no one. But instead of waiting to hear my take you made a absurd, ignorant remark that clearly shows your level of intelligence.

    You have my condolences~~but there is help out there for you if you decide to get it.
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    Trooper Montoya has hired an attorney to assist in getting his job back.

    according to the news blurb it is interesting to note in Trooper Montoya's report

    quote In a police report, Montoya says he heard his fellow officers talk about a gun as he ran toward the back of the minivan. unquote

    http://www.krqe.com/news/crime/cop-w...wants-job-back

    yet the Trooper who smashed in the passenger window with his baton hasn't been sanctioned...YET!

    the Lady driving the mini-van has been charged with felony fleeing and felony child abuse for putting her kids at risk.!

    uh lets see it is the troopers putting her children at risk isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Why would we want your condolences? You have some serious mental issues that need a professional. I had not even posted in this thread until now. The officer should be charged with endangering, by now you should no I excuse breaking the law for no one. But instead of waiting to hear my take you made a absurd, ignorant remark that clearly shows your level of intelligence.

    You have my condolences~~but there is help out there for you if you decide to get it.
    How come you aren't a police officer anymore ? Were you fired ? Did you grow a conscious and realize you just couldn't do it anymore ?

    I know this must be difficult for you to see police officers getting held accountable.

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    They're not serious. They don't really sanction or fail to condone this kind of behavior - overly eager use of a firearm in situations which do not involve very dangerous predators, or known criminals.

    Yes it's dangerous to drive away from a legal stop. But we're not talking criminal mastermind, gangs, organized crime, serial killers.

    We're talking van full of kids. You got the license number, pick 'em up later. There's a distinct lack of control of ego which makes someone in authority use a deadly weapon because their authority was disrespected.

    They stopped overly aggressive car chases. They could put in place a rule about shooting at traffic stop perps without special circumstances.

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    The only regret the police have is they were caught on video.

    This is why police don't like being filmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    The only regret the police have is they were caught on video.

    This is why police don't like being filmed.
    They filmed themselves, are you that stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    They filmed themselves, are you that stupid?

    Sorry Grape...
    Doesn't matter if they filmed themselves. Criminals film themselves all the time.

    The police regret that they were filmed. This is why police don't like being filmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    Doesn't matter if they filmed themselves. Criminals film themselves all the time.

    The police regret that they were filmed. This is why police don't like being filmed.
    If the police did not want to be filmed by dash cams they would work in departments without them. I am sure this cop wasn't using his noggin, and the filming did not matter. Like you he let his emotions take over instead of common sense and logic. He did something stupid, much like your claim above. Which is the most idiotic I have heard yet. That they film themselves because they don't like to be filmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    If the police did not want to be filmed by dash cams they would work in departments without them. I am sure this cop wasn't using his noggin, and the filming did not matter. Like you he let his emotions take over instead of common sense and logic. He did something stupid, much like your claim above. Which is the most idiotic I have heard yet. That they film themselves because they don't like to be filmed.
    Officers in general aren't afraid of dash cam video because they know they can just make it disappear. I'm shocked this department didn't make that happen.

    I know this is a difficult time for you seeing a cop get fired for attempting to murder children.

    You'll get over it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    Officers in general aren't afraid of dash cam video because they know they can just make it disappear. I'm shocked this department didn't make that happen.

    I know this is a difficult time for you seeing a cop get fired for attempting to murder children.

    You'll get over it though.
    I'm happy he got fired, he screwed up. I just can't get over your stupid insinuations that are completely insane.
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