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    MDA events in AZ (TOMORROW!)

    Hello everyone. I realize this is very short notice, but I'm hoping somebody can make it. Doing my best to get other RKBA supporters out there as well.
    A thread on another forum deals with the events staged by these crazy, misinformed, and often hysterical anti-gun groups: http://http://forum.opencarry.org/fo...03#post2014703

    Here is a my response to one post on that thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by cjohnson44546 View Post
    Just go stand in middle of them with a big sign for the press to see that says

    "We love so many kids got killed as it helps us push our anti-gun agenda! Guns are bad!"

    and act like your totally one of them
    As funny as that sounds, I'm afraid I'll be going to the local park protest with a sign of some sort.

    Thinking about putting the Biden quote:
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Biden
    "regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies"
    That, or "How does rendering people defenseless help protect them from armed aggressors?"


    As you can see, peaceful counter protest could help us show the media that the argument is not one-sided.
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    I forgot to put the actual post that started the thread:


    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbossman90 View Post
    With all the talk lately about the Newtown anniversary, I'm surprised I haven't heard more about MDA's campaign activities.

    That being said, they published a list of places around the country they are holding events.

    http://momsdemandaction.org/no-more-silence/

    So as to not give them page hits, here are the events (Ohio events in bold):


    WHO: Moms Demand Action Arizona WHEN: December 14, 2013 3:00 PM WHERE: Catalina Park 4th Avenue between 2nd and 1st Sts Tucson, AZ 85705

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Arizona WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:35 AM WHERE: Memorial Presbyterian Church 4141 E Thomas Rd Phoenix, AZ 85018


    WHO: Moms Demand Action California WHEN: December 14, 2013 3:30 PM WHERE: Federal Building 11000 Wilshire Blvd Los Angeles, CA 91311

    WHO: Moms Demand Action California WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:15 AM WHERE: Irvine United Congregational Church 4915 Alton Pkwy Irvine, CA 92604

    WHO: Moms Demand Action California WHEN: December 14, 2013 1:00 PM WHERE: Saint Cyprian Catholic Church 1133 W. Washington Ave Sunnyvale, CA 94086

    WHO: Moms Demand Action California WHEN: December 14, 2013 10:00 AM WHERE: St. Vincent de Paul 2320 Green St San Francisco, CA 94123

    WHO: Moms Demand Action California WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:15 AM WHERE: First Presbyterian Church 4963 Balboa Encino, CA 91316

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Colorado WHEN: December 14, 2013 10:00 AM WHERE: Cheesman Park Pavilion 1599 E 8th Ave Denver, CO 80206

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Connecticut WHEN: December 14, 2013 2:00 PM WHERE: Asylum Hill Congregational Church 814 Asylum Ave Hartford, CT 06105

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Washington DC WHEN: December 14, 2013 2:00 PM WHERE: Canal Park in the Capitol Riverfront 202 M St SE Washington, DC 20003

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Florida WHEN: December 14, 2013 1:00 PM WHERE: Friendship Fountain 1015 Museum Cir Jacksonville, FL 32207

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Florida WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:45 AM WHERE: Huizenga Plaza Ampitheater East Las Olas Blvd at S. Andrews Ave. Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Florida WHEN: December 14, 2013 10:00 AM WHERE: Sherwood Forest Park NE 86th Street at NE 3rd Avenue El Portal, FL 33138

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Florida WHEN: December 14, 2013 11:00 AM WHERE: Gilchrist Park 400 W Retta Esplanade Punta Gorda, FL 33950

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Georgia WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Daffin Park 1 Waring Dr Savannah, GA 31404

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Georgia WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:35 AM WHERE: Unitarian Universalist Metro Atlanta North 11420 Crabapple Rd Roswell, GA 30075

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Idaho WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Idaho Human Rights Memorial 777 S 8th St Boise, ID 83702

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Illinois WHEN: December 14, 2013 8:15 AM WHERE: Western Springs Tower Green 914 Hillgrove Ave Western Springs, IL 60558

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Illinois WHEN: December 14, 2013 11:00 AM WHERE: Cornell Square Park 1809 W 50th St Chicago, IL 60609

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Illinois WHEN: December 14, 2013 5:00 PM WHERE: Old State Capital Plaza 6th Street & Adams St Springfield, IL 62701

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Indiana WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Christ Church Cathedral 125 Monument Cir Indianapolis, IN 46204

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Iowa WHEN: December 14, 2013 11:00 AM WHERE: ‘Ding’ Darling Shelter House 2100 Saylor Rd Des Moines, IA 50313

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Kentucky WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:00 AM WHERE: Church of the Advent 901 Baxter Ave Louisville, KY 40204

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Maryland WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:00 AM WHERE: Cathedral of the Incarnation 4 E University Pkwy Baltimore, MD 21218

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Massachusetts WHEN: December 14, 2013 1:30 PM WHERE: Boston Commons Tremont Street Boston , MA 02116

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Michigan WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:00 AM WHERE: Fountain Street Church 24 Fountain St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Michigan WHEN: December 14, 2013 6:00 PM WHERE: The Spirit of Detroit 2 Woodward Detroit, MI 48226

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Michigan WHEN: December 14, 2013 11:00 AM WHERE: Union Missionary Baptist Church 500 S Martin Luther King Jr Blvd Lansing, MI 48915

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Minnesota WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Westminster Presbyterian Church 1200 Marquette Ave Minneapolis, MN 55403

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Missouri WHEN: December 14, 2013 11:30 AM WHERE: Central Reform Congregation 5020 Waterman Blvd St. Louis, MO 63108

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Montana WHEN: December 14, 2013 10:00 AM WHERE: Union Hall 208 E. Main Street Missoula, MT 59802

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Nevada WHEN: December 14, 2013 4:00 PM WHERE: Unity Baptist Church 545 Marion Drive Las Vegas, NV 89110

    WHO: Moms Demand Action New Hampshire WHEN: December 14, 2013 12:00 PM WHERE: The Durham Triangle
    Durham, NH 03824

    WHO: Moms Demand Action New Jersey WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:15 AM WHERE: First Presbyterian Church 326 Bloomfield Ave Caldwell, NJ 07006

    WHO: Moms Demand Action New Jersey WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:15 AM WHERE: Unitarian Universalist Congregation 67 Church St Montclair, NJ 07006

    WHO: Moms Demand Action New York – Upstate WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Christ Episcopal Church 43 S Broadway Tarrytown, NY 10591

    WHO: Moms Demand Action New York – Greater NYC WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:00 AM WHERE: St. Bart’s Chapel 325 Park Ave New York, NY 10804

    WHO: Moms Demand Action North Carolina WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:00 AM WHERE: Green Street United Methodist Church 639 Green St Winston-Salem, NC 27101

    WHO: Moms Demand Action North Carolina WHEN: December 14, 2013 10:30 AM WHERE: Holy Cross Catholic Church 2438 S Alston Ave Durham, NC 27713

    WHO: Moms Demand Action North Carolina WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:35 AM WHERE: Kenilworth Presbyterian Church 123 Kenilworth Rd Asheville, NC 28803

    WHO: Moms Demand Action North Carolina WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Wedgewood Church 4800 Wedgewood Dr Charlotte, NC 28210

    WHO: Moms Demand Action North Dakota WHEN: December 14, 2013 12:00 PM WHERE: Faith Lutheran Church West Fargo 127 2nd Ave E West Fargo, ND 58078

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Ohio WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:00 AM WHERE: Family Missionary Baptist Church 996 Oakwood Ave Columbus, OH 43206

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Ohio WHEN: December 14, 2013 2:00 PM WHERE: Veteran’s Memorial Park 6328 State Rd Parma, OH 44134

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Ohio WHEN: December 14, 2013 6:30 PM WHERE: Clifton United Methodist 3416 Clifton Ave Cincinnati, OH 45220

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Oklahoma WHEN: December 14, 2013 12:00 PM WHERE: Guthrie Green 111 W Brady St Tulsa, OK 74103

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Oregon WHEN: December 14, 2013 10:00 AM WHERE: Unitarian Universalist Church of Salem 5090 Center St NE Salem, OR 97317

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Pennsylvania WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:00 AM WHERE: Chatham University Campbell Memorial Chapel 5799 W Woodland Rd Pittsburgh, PA 15232

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Pennsylvania WHEN: December 14, 2013 11:00 AM WHERE: Lutheran Church of God’s Love 791 Newtown-Yardley Rd Newtown, PA 18940

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Pennsylvania WHEN: December 14, 2013 2:00 PM WHERE: Messiah Lutheran Church 901 N 6th St Harrisburg, PA 17102

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Rhode Island WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:15 AM WHERE: First Unitarian Church of Providence 1 Benevolent St Providence, RI 02906

    WHO: Moms Demand Action South Carolina WHEN: December 14, 2013 10:00 AM WHERE: St. Anthony’s Catholic Parish 307 Gower St Greenville, SC 29611

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Tennessee WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Belmont United Methodist Church 2007 Acklen Ave Nashville, TN 37212

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Texas WHEN: December 14, 2013 2:00 PM WHERE: Austin City Hall 301 W 2nd St Austin, TX 78701

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Texas WHEN: December 14, 2013 12:00 PM WHERE: Discovery Green 1500 McKinney St Houston, TX 77010

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Texas WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Main Plaza 115 N Main St San Antonio, TX 78205 RSVP

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Virginia WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:30 AM WHERE: Carillon at Byrd Park 1300 Blanton Avenue Richmond, VA 23220

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Virginia WHEN: December 14, 2013 12:00 PM WHERE: Lee Plaza 1525 Westover Ave SW Roanoke, VA 24015

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Virginia WHEN: December 14, 2013 9:00 AM WHERE: The Netherlands Carillon 1222 N Meade St Arlington , VA 22209

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Washington WHEN: December 14, 2013 5:30 PM WHERE: First United Methodist Church of Seattle 180 Denny Way Seattle,
    Washington 98109

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Washington WHEN: December 14, 2013 1:45 PM WHERE: Washington State Capitol – Legislative Building Rotunda 416 Syd Snyder Ave SW Olympia, WA 98501

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Wisconsin WHEN: December 14, 2013 1:30 PM WHERE: Calvary Presbyterian Church 935 W Wisconsin Ave Milwaukee, WI 53233

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Wisconsin WHEN: December 14, 2013 1:00 PM WHERE: First United Methodist Church 325 E Franklin St Appleton, WI 54911

    WHO: Moms Demand Action Wisconsin WHEN: December 14, 2013 1:00 PM WHERE: First Unitarian Society 900 University Bay Dr Madison, WI 53593


    My question is this, would an open carry protest of these events, or rather this organization, be in poor taste? I'm up in the air about it. I'm highly considering going to the event in Columbus.

    Thoughts?
    The Arizona events were bolded by me. I will be at the Catalina Park event in Tucson. I hope others see this thread and do their best to attend as well, whether in Phoenix or Tucson. Have not yet heard of other events taking place in other cities.
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    Rusty - love your grit here, but sadly people here in AZ seem to have the attitude of :"oh well, someone else can stand up for MY rights. I'm too busy with _______ " fill in the blank....

    Thank God for AZCDL, but even they can't do all the heavy lifting all of the time. Inaction on our part = win for gun grabbers. They will show up and get their propaganda in the news, while we go quietly into the night on this one it seems. Hope to be proven wrong. Past experience has shown (April 27, 2013 pro-2A rally at state house) that we can't even muster more than 200 supporters on a sunny 90° Saturday. This in the heart of the aftermath of Newtown & the push by government/anti-freedom folks to strip all of the gun freedoms we enjoy here in AZ. Sometimes WE are our own worst enemies.

    Rant off. :what:
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Rusty - love your grit here, but sadly people here in AZ seem to have the attitude of :"oh well, someone else can stand up for MY rights. I'm too busy with _______ " fill in the blank....

    Thank God for AZCDL, but even they can't do all the heavy lifting all of the time. Inaction on our part = win for gun grabbers. They will show up and get their propaganda in the news, while we go quietly into the night on this one it seems. Hope to be proven wrong. Past experience has shown (April 27, 2013 pro-2A rally at state house) that we can't even muster more than 200 supporters on a sunny 90° Saturday. This in the heart of the aftermath of Newtown & the push by government/anti-freedom folks to strip all of the gun freedoms we enjoy here in AZ. Sometimes WE are our own worst enemies.

    Rant off. :what:
    Sorry for the long post.

    OCed to the counter protest of the MDA anti-rights group. Showed up with two signs: an "Unarmed victims = Happy Criminals" and an "'Gun control' is SEXIST/RACIST" sign. Found an AZCDL member with signs and "Guns Save Lives" stickers in assistance during the early moments, and we were treated with disdain in general. So yes, only TWO supporters of the RKBA were in attendance as far as I could see. Would have liked to see a flood of RKBA supporters; as FreeInAZ pointed out, we seem to lack the mobilization of involved individuals. To be fair, I realize some people simply couldn't make it because of things that just couldn't be put off for later.

    We were able to keep ourselves composed and tried not to give the anti-rights media in attendance any good sound bites to frame us in a negative light. Some antis in attendance could at least carry on a civil conversation without deviating from the topic or making fantastic leaps (you know, the types that argue "well what about tanks and nuclear weapons?!" in regards to the RKBA).
    My 1911 was the center of attention when it came to me for several cameramen, and it was disheartening to find several gun owners support the notion that guns and the RKBA were only intended for hunting and sporting purposes. On a side note, I found it interesting that they gave so much frame time to the guy playing sad-sounding tunes on his violin, and that some seemed to intentionally crop me out of the frame when doing so.

    During the event, an attempt was made to keep us and our signs covered by their own signs, despite the fact that we were standing there quietly unless in conversation. I found it to be very telling of their beliefs that they would try to shut us out of the conversation and the photo since we were also there to remember the victims of laws that cater to criminals by creating victim disarmament zones. One guy next to me was more brazen and tried to cover my sign, so I firmly, but politely pointed out that I was not doing that to them and I expected the same courtesy. He backed off, others didn't. I'd be lying if I said I didn't find comfort in their shock at seeing me pull the second sign from by backpack to counter their attempt to block me out.*Thankfully, youth, determination, and a bit of help from somewhere helped me keep up the two signs I had, one in each outstretched arm, ensuring that at least one of the signs was in the photo frame at any given time.

    Afterwards, I was interviewed (and possibly the other RKBA supporter was as well) by two or so local media outlets, one of which was quite blatantly anti (they kept giggling or spoke in mocking tones) asking whether I though it disrespectful to OC on "the anniversary of Newtown," and I pointed out that I was not the one that murdered the children, and I was at the MDA event to remember the victims that were unarmed by laws, peacefully counter protest the MDA arguments and show that this was not a one-sided argument and that differing opinions existed. Will wait to see how the media outlets portray me (us?) and my (our?) words, if they do so at all.
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    The aftermath of the counter rally

    In regards to the aftermath of the counter rally, I guess the AZCDL member-in-attendance and I didn't give them the sound bites they wanted, so they just quoted me without the full context being provided.

    Here is the link to the story, in case anyone wants to leave them a comment or something:
    http://www.kvoa.com/news/tucsonans-r...n-anniversary/

    TUCSON - Supporters of new gun laws organized events to remember the 1-year anniversary of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

    Gabby Giffords and her husband Mark Kelly planted a rose bush at a community garden near Grant and Swan Roads.

    "I don't think this is political," Mark Kelly said. "This is an issue that affects hundreds of thousands of families in this country every single year."

    A new NBC News/ Wall Street Journal Poll shows demand for new gun laws is back to where it was before the Sandy Hook shooting. In February, 61 percent of Americans felt "laws covering the sale of firearms should be made more strict." The number is back down to 52 percent.

    "Over time, people's interests and what they are thinking bout on a daily basis does change," Kelly said. "Unfortunately, if we don't make changes in laws affecting gun violence, we're not going to see this issue just go away."

    Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America organized a rally at Catalina Park near Speedway Boulevard and Fourth Avenue. The main speakers included Tucson Mayor Jonathan Rothschild and T.U.S.D. Superintendent H.T. Sanchez. Several survivors of the January 8, 2011 Tucson mass shooting were in the crowd. Jocelyn Strauss is the group's regional manager.

    "I don't feel like Americans are losing interest," Strauss said. "I feel like we're at a point now, actually, where we're more educated and informed. And we'll continue growing that way."

    About 100 protesters attended, many held signs reading "end gun violence."

    In May, the Department of Justice released a report showing gun-related homicides are down 39 percent in the past 20 years. In 1993, there were 18,253 gun deaths. In 2011, there were 11,101. The numbers have been fairly stable the past 10 years.

    At the rally, a couple counter-protesters held signs reading "go after criminals leave us alone" and "unarmed victims = happy criminals." One man openly carried a holstered handgun. He did not want to give his name.

    "I was not the one that was there that killed those children," he said. "A lot of people die by car accidents. Do you find it inappropriate that you drive around in a vehicle that has killed thousands of people?

    Gabby Giffords recently transferred $300,000 to a newly formed political action committee. That PAC will give money to candidates who vote for stricter gun laws.
    They forgot to mention:

    1. the part where they asked me if I didn't think it was disrespectful to carry a handgun, especially on the anniversary of the tragedy (to which the above was PART of my answer).

    2. the part where I pointed out that (baseball) bats and kitchen knives (along with vehicles) have been used to commit murders, but we don't seem to think it disrespectful to own any of them.

    3. the part where I explained that guns, knives, and cars are all TOOLS, and as such are only extensions of the person that uses them.

    4. the part where ALMOST a hundred people attended (I estimate 70-80 tops).

    5.? I am not too sure that KVOA wasn't the disrespectful crew I spoke of earlier, but if so, you can add "failed to mention their question/accusation of politicizing the memorial event".

    As to my words, in writing it would have been "I was not the one that was there; that killed those children." I thought I made it clear, but they made me seem like the kind of person that does not care about grammar.


    *EDIT 15 Dec.* The video in the article cuts to the actual MDA protest at 1:12, and you can see the sign of the AZCDL member-in-attendance at 1:42. You will notice how we are cropped out of the frame until then.
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    A second article from another source

    So I found another article on yesterday's counter rally. You will notice the large discrepancy between this one, which says about 50 people showed up for the MDA event, and the previous article's claim that "about 100" people showed up. As I stated before, I would say it was 60 people, maybe 80 TOPS.

    Here is the link, in case you wanted to see it for yourself, take a look at the photo, or leave a comment:
    http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/2...ar-anniversary

    Tucsonans honor victims of Sandy Hook on one year anniversary
    By Matt Mendes

    TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) -
    Tucsonans gathered to remember those victims murdered in the Newtown, Connecticut mass shooting a year ago.

    Families, community leaders and January 8th survivors joined "Moms Demand Action" to honor the victims with bell ringing.

    The memorial was held at Catalina Park near 4th Avenue and Speedway. About 50 people attended, holding signs, wearing ribbons and one man even played his violin, calling for change to prevent future violence.

    "Gun violence is not something that can happen to somebody else, it can happen to anybody," said Pam Simon, a January 8th survivor.

    A few anti-gun control protestors showed up to the vigil.

    "No law is going to stop a madman. No law is going to stop someone from getting a gun in the U.S.," Charles Heller, Arizona Citizen's Defense League, said.

    At least one man was armed.

    "The pistol on my hip is nothing more than an extension of myself. It is a tool and it is the user that determines whether good or evil is done to the community," said an armed man who wanted to be called "Citizen." "I am a law abiding citizen therefore I have nothing to worry about and neither should anyone around here."

    "People need to get the message, this isn't going to end until we get some reasonable gun laws. Nothing that takes away people's guns but certainly helps to take them away from people who shouldn't have them," said Mayor Jonathan Rothschild, Tucson's Mayor.
    So this article does present our words in more context, and for that I am thankful. Hopefully, a certain member of this forum will not begrudge my use of his moniker when identifying myself to the media. In my defense, I had inteded to say "you may refer to me as Armed Citizen", but for some reason "Armed" just didn't come out. My bad.

    Also, you will notice my two homemade signs on brown cardboard (from a box I had lying around) in the photo just above and to the left of the man in blue.

    Rothschild and others kept going on about how they are "hunters" and own guns, but don't have any "high-capacity" or semi-automatic firearms. They were the "sporting purpose only" people that claim to support the RKBA, but are actually proponents of "need", our enemies, and enemies of Freedom.
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    Rusty, do you think they will try this again this year ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterNSteinmetz View Post
    Rusty, do you think they will try this again this year ?
    After seeing them push their rhetoric over the bodies of the teens who were murdered by a "popular" kid who couldn't lawfully CC (and was already breaking the law when entering the school armed), my answer is "why wouldn't they?". Better yet, why should we expect better from them?

    As organizations, MAD moms, Illegal Mayors Against Legal Guns, and the Brady Brunch have all shown a predisposition to using the bodies of the fallen victims to advance their agenda, a tendency to espouse the violence they CLAIM to be against (bloodlust for those who have decided not to be easy prey), and their consummate ability to lie, distort, and exaggerate in spite of the fundamental flaw in their rhetoric: the law applies ONLY to those who choose to abide by it, and applies to criminals only if, and when, they are caught.

    I kept my signs, I have more cardboard, the printing costs are worth the expense, and I will be well rested on that morning. I hope I see at least one other Freedom-loving individual there, because it can be a lonely and disheartening experience to see so many people pushing to make others as defenseless as they've chosen to render themselves "for the children".

    /rant off
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    I will be there!!!

    Rusty, let me know if there is any word on any events that MDA may be putting together for this year, I will be sure to stand alongside you and any other true American in protest to what these people stand for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javelina View Post
    Rusty, let me know if there is any word on any events that MDA may be putting together for this year, I will be sure to stand alongside you and any other true American in protest to what these people stand for.
    Don't know how I missed this post.

    THAT's the spirit I'd like to see in each and every armed Law-Abiding Citizen in Arizona; it'd send a very clear message to state and Fed "representatives" indeed.

    I will be in Tucson that Sunday, and the MAD moms are likely to hit the same parks as last year (listed above, more or less).
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    Let me know

    Let me know if any specific place/time/date is indeed confirmed. It would be awesome to get more people involved alongside us. Not sure what FreeInAZ or Peter and anyone else is up to but even if we all need to load up into my 84 corolla and drive down to Tucson it is something I am willing to do, (Grant it my wife approves ) please let me know sir! You have our contact info!!!

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    Yes, if they are holding a rally, I will be there with my OC friends if I am in town. It will be an honor to counter-protest with them. I am happy to pay for any additional signs needed and gas for the trip to Tucson.

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    No events listed on MDA page for Nov or Dec yet.

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    MDA events in AZ (TOMORROW!)

    I think it is being brought back up in anticipation that the mad mommies will try it once again this year? Hopefully they don't. But then they'd miss their free bus rides, lunches & paychecks from their master, Mr. Bloomberg, wouldn't they?
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