eye95
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Iphone App to record police with offsite storage
- Thread starter PALO
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
You do realize the right isn't for the press? The right is the use of the press and all of us have it. He has the right to show up and record events and disseminate the information he finds and his opinion on it.
stealthyeliminator
Regular Member
Don't try that in New York... "City issued press badge?" "No, I'm with ...." "Get on the bus"
stealthyeliminator
Regular Member
Wow, someone is bitter. Why take anything from this forum personally? Rhetorical question - I'm not looking to derail PALO's thread.
JustaShooter
Regular Member
It is - but as has been mentioned elsewhere, it has some drawbacks: First, you can't just leave it running all day. Not nearly enough battery power. That means you have to turn it on when you want it running which takes time (especially if you keep your phone password locked as you should), and can either be forgotten or in the worst case misconstrued as reaching for something else. And since it uses the phone's mic, if you get a call it stops recording. It has its uses but as a primary recording device for every day use (especially for recording your own encounters) it isn't the best choice IMO.
JoeSparky
Centurion
Yep, THAT was mature.:uhoh:
I didn't make up the idea, James Madison did and congress approved of it in 1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Was Alma Lovell a member of the press ? That was the question posed to SCOTUS in 1937 when Lovell, a Jehovahs Witness, was arrested for distributing religious pamphlets in violation of a city law.
"The liberty of the press is not confined to newspapers and periodicals. It necessarily embraces pamphlets and leaflets. These indeed have been historic weapons in the defense of liberty, as the pamphlets of Thomas Paine and others in our own history abundantly attest. The press in its connotation comprehends every sort of publication which affords a vehicle of information and opinion"
If the SCOTUS believed a woman handing out 41 pamphlets was the press then surely a man who has over 4 million views on Youtube and Liveleak would also constitute the press.
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Of course it does, but Fienstein and him are irritated that a 17 year old can film them and publish it, so they want the press to mean something they can control.
Primus
Regular Member
That was helpful for the thread. I like the screwjacks part. Especially since he hasn't said a word to insult you in any way. He asks a question and guys gotta get all excited about it.
Wise man once said "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything".
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Primus
Regular Member
I could care less. Pretty sure I've made Facebook and YouTube before. I could care less other then I don't get any royalties from it lol
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
You missed the point, sarcasm is lost on you, apparently so is logic.
Listen, the point is you don't get to define "the press" neither does Feinstien.
Primus
Regular Member
I'm not implying that I personally do. I'm certainly not implying I should be determining if some guy in CA is "press". I'm pretty sure there are rules as to what constitutes "press". For example do you think he'd just walk into the white house or capital hill as a "press" agent? I don't know for certain but I doubt it.
And again he can videotape all he wants its annoying but oh well.
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Can I walk into the white house or capitol hill ? No. But neither can 99% of "real press".
A press pass is nothing more than an invitation from the host.
For instance, when the Lakers, a corporation, play a basketball game at Staples Center, they issue passes for certain media people. These passes are nothing more than a corporation giving a person access onto and into private property for the purposes of documenting the corporations employees.
Walmart, a corporation, does the same thing.
Who gave the Lakers and Walmart permission to issue press passes ? Walmart and the Lakers did.
When Puff Daddy throws a celebrity party in the Hamptons his public relations agent will issue press passes. These passes will go to "reporters" from magazines and websites that are favorable to Puff Daddy and will only print complimentary things. The government does the same thing.
Does someone need to be licensed to issue a press pass ? No.
If a person does not have a press pass does that mean they aren't the press ? No.
Is there a test someone has to take to become a member of the press ? No.
Is there a permit someone needs to have to be a member of the press ? No
How does someone get those cool laminated press credentials that "real press" members have ? Simple....a corporation gives them to you.
Do certain government agencies honor some laminated passes and not others ? Yes.
Is it fair ? No.
Legal ? Yes
Many police agencies in America are now no longer issuing press credentials for legal reasons. The main reason is because there is legal precedent that the government cant decide who is press and who isn't.
However, government agencies can decide how many people can fit into their briefing room.
eye95
Well-known member
BS. If you really did not want to derail the thread, you would not even have responded. You were quite rude three posts in a row, and then promptly asked me for a favor. Not a smart way to get help.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
LOl...do you even read what you write?
I'm certainly not implying I should be determining if some guy in CA is "press".
I'm pretty sure there are rules as to what constitutes "press"
....LOL....What a cop out, to the original assertion that he makes up the press idea as he goes....
There is no constitutional right to be a press. Do you get that?