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    Toby Keith has a restaurant I'll not patronize

    http://tinyurl.com/lvy5xn3

    "NO GUNS ALLOWED"

    Need I say more?

    The restaurant's FaceBook page is taking more hits (Nationwide - folks are goimg to sstay away from his other locations, too) than support. https://www.facebook.com/TobyKeithWoodbridge

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    I was in Phoenix, AZ during most of October and while there I noticed the Toby Keith restaurant there had a big "no guns" sign hung prominently as well. I skipped right past it and had some good food at the nearby restaurants that were happy to serve gun carriers.

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    No surprise!

    With or without the sign I wouldn't be going there.... Toby was/is a huge supporter of Obummer.... that is why Ford dropped him as a spokes person.
    The sign just adds fuel to the fire.
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    I saw comments section on that Huffington Post article. A lot of antis are posting and not enough 2A supporters.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4509745.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No surprise!

    With or without the sign I wouldn't be going there.... Toby was/is a huge supporter of Obummer.... that is why Ford dropped him as a spokes person.
    The sign just adds fuel to the fire.

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    It never ceases to amaze me that there are country singers who are quite liberal and support people such as Obama. Faith Hill and her husband, Tim McGraw, came out in his support as did Kelly Clarkson. Don't they know their audience? Or do they just assume they will be overlooked?
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    I don't care what Toby's politics are/is as long as he keeps them to himself. I don't want grocery store cashiers preaching politics let alone some overly rich snob, WHO gets his money from the public not government.

    The good thing is celebrity restaurants usually fail. Anybody remember Jim Nabors, Kenny Rogers, among other restaurant failures. The successful restaurants that do make it owned by celebrities are smart enough to keep their name out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    ….. The successful restaurants that do make it owned by celebrities are smart enough to keep their name out of it.
    Guess the Tazer's firing on all cylinders - glad to see you're in the land of the posting….
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    Nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I don't care what Toby's politics are/is as long as he keeps them to himself. I don't want grocery store cashiers preaching politics let alone some overly rich snob, WHO gets his money from the public not government.

    The good thing is celebrity restaurants usually fail. Anybody remember Jim Nabors, Kenny Rogers, among other restaurant failures. The successful restaurants that do make it owned by celebrities are smart enough to keep their name out of it.
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    I love Toby's music

    and the fact that he does multiple USO tours every year.

    I can overlook his being a democrat same as I do with my daughter. Neither of them try to preach to me about how wrong I am as a conservative. If he voted for NObama, so be it. That is his right as an American citizen.

    I will not go to his place as they are anti, but I see no reason to stop listening to his music. His concerts are fun and very entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me that there are country singers who are quite liberal and support people such as Obama. Faith Hill and her husband, Tim McGraw, came out in his support as did Kelly Clarkson. Don't they know their audience? Or do they just assume they will be overlooked?
    That's cause it is not country music. It's a version of pop music that has yet to be defined. Hank wouldn't have done it this way.
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    Per TK's FB page, they have an official response to the controversy, which makes two odd claims:

    1. The Commonwealth of Virginia officially endorses and encourages banning guns from private property.

    2. That the insurance provider of this establishment requires them to ban guns.

    I call bovine feces! Prove it. Name names. Who, at what state agency, advised them? Publish your insurance policy.

    I advised them of same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by va_tazdad View Post
    and the fact that he does multiple USO tours every year.

    I can overlook his being a democrat same as I do with my daughter. Neither of them try to preach to me about how wrong I am as a conservative. If he voted for NObama, so be it. That is his right as an American citizen.

    I will not go to his place as they are anti, but I see no reason to stop listening to his music. His concerts are fun and very entertaining.
    Toby is welcome to his opinion, and he actually does not own the restaurant, he just sold them his name. But you do realize those USO tours are to put dollars in his pocket. Not saying that is a bad thing, just that it is part of sales, and not some heroic act.

    The wise thing for him to do would be to set the record straight himself, if he does not I have to believe he approves of the owners choice. If that affects his record sales so be it. I don't expect his restaurant to last, unless it has good food for the money. A celebrity name will only carry so far, personally I don't like these yuppie type hype business.
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    Reviews I have read from folks who have been to other locations is that the food is incredibly mediocre, at best. And the service isn't even that good.

    I live three miles from the place. There are way many other better choices in the area.
    Last edited by zoom6zoom; 12-29-2013 at 07:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom6zoom View Post
    Reviews I have read from folks who have been to other locations is that the food is incredibly mediocre, at best. And the service isn't even that good.

    I live three miles from the place. There are way many other better choices in the area.
    I have always like non franchised restaurants, places like Ruby Tuesday, and Fridays give hives. Hell yuppies give me hives.
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    This just in.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoco...rtner=yahootix

    "Virginia is an open carry state, meaning gun enthusiasts are welcome to brandish their weapons openly — except within private premises or businesses that enact a ban."

    Really??? And here I thought Brandishing was against the law?????

    Maybe Clare O'Connor, Forbes Staff, should check the law Before she spews incorrect information!

    "While we understand and respect every person’s right to own and bear arms, we at Toby Keith’s I Love This Bar and Grill, with guidance from the State of Virginia and based on insurance regulations, have adopted a no weapons policy. It is our desire to provided a safe, enjoyable and entertaining experience for our patrons and staff."???????????

    What agency from the state gave them this guidance? What steps have they taken to protect the patrons? Sounds like Bovine scatology to me.

    Sadly, once again, the truth is far from what has been printed in the media. It is nice however, to see that it is getting national attention.
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    The problem with antis thinking it is anti common sense. It is like the argument that law abiding armed citizens will get drunk and have a shoot out. I believe being drunk and armed in VA is against the law. It would not be the openly armed lawful citizen doing this, it would be the person hiding his gun so he can get drunk, and that type don't give no poop about a sign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    Per TK's FB page, they have an official response to the controversy, which makes two odd claims:

    1. The Commonwealth of Virginia officially endorses and encourages banning guns from private property.

    2. That the insurance provider of this establishment requires them to ban guns.

    I call bovine feces! Prove it. Name names. Who, at what state agency, advised them? Publish your insurance policy.

    I advised them of same.
    Well I find the insurance part believable, one of the guys who does gun videos on youtube (TheYankeeMarshal) used to own a bar in Portland Oregon and says his insurance company pressured him to put signs banning guns....

    Of course if that was universal in the insurance industry everywhere would ban guns..... So it does beg the question, why not switch insurance carriers....

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    The insurance thing is what bothering me. It almost seems like they are taking liability for safety since they want guns banned. Hey are so worried they will be sued if someone carries in there why shouldn't they be sued if something happens because it is posted now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uber_Olafsun View Post
    The insurance thing is what bothering me. It almost seems like they are taking liability for safety since they want guns banned. Hey are so worried they will be sued if someone carries in there why shouldn't they be sued if something happens because it is posted now.
    If an insurance company insists that a one of its insureds implement a "no gun" policy as a condition of coverage, and a patron is injured as a result of another individual violating said policy (e.g. an armed robber), then the injured person would have a claim against the establishment, which the insurance carrier would likely cover (and require the appropriate police reports etc. were filed). The "posting" would have little bearing on the claim. And yes, the shooter would also be liable, etc.

    OTH, if an insurance carrier didn't require such a policy, and the same thing happened, they might be successful in refuting a claim, foisting the liability off on the owner as "not maintaining a safe environment". All of those policies require the insured to "...take reasonable precautions...", and the insured doesn't get to define that term. He only gets to argue it in court.

    As to the injured patron claiming the "posting" contributed to the crime and getting compensation, good luck with that.

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    The Washington Times, 'Gun ban at Toby Keith restaurant draws ire. By Meredith Somers

    "Toby Keith's I Love This Bar & Grill has been open two days but already made national headlines after the owners decided to prohibit firearms in the restaurant."

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ant-draws-ire/

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    Stopped by Wegmans to buy some groceries and on my way back through the center of Stonebridge I stopped at Toby's to take a picture of his dress code. Also talked with a channel 7 camera man waiting for his reporter to show. He said that they were doing a piece on Toby's gun policy...

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    Not even Uncle Sam's Motorcycle Club? Wonder how that would look on TV.

    Problem is, the other sign would make them walk away before being able to see if the patch would get them thrown out.

    stay safe.
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    I guess they don't respect our first amendment rights any more than our second amendment rights....

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