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    New Yorker Finds Unusual Use for a Loaded Firearm

    According to the Times Union

    Jerome M. Hauer, Gov. Andrew Cuomo's director of homeland security, took out his handgun and used the laser sighting device attached to the barrel as a pointer in a presentation to a foreign delegation, according to public officials. It happened Oct. 24 in Albany at the highly secure state emergency operations center below State Police headquarters.
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    These officials, one of whom claimed to be an eyewitness, said that three Swedish emergency managers in the delegation were rattled when the gun's laser tracked across one of their heads before Hauer found the map of New York, at which he wanted to point.



    Hilarious on so many levels ....

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    I supposed he was the only one professional enough in the room to have that weapon.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Hauer, commissioner of the Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services, was disabled by a stroke a few years ago and can be unsteady. He isn't a law enforcement official. He carries the loaded 9-millimeter Glock in a holster into state buildings, an apparent violation of state law barring state employees from bringing weapons to the workplace, several witnesses say.

    "Unsteady" would seem to refer to more than physical coordination. Perhaps cognitive ability?

    Thankfully he did not "point and click."
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Hauer, commissioner of the Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services, was disabled by a stroke a few years ago and can be unsteady. He isn't a law enforcement official. He carries the loaded 9-millimeter Glock in a holster into state buildings, an apparent violation of state law barring state employees from bringing weapons to the workplace, several witnesses say.

    "Unsteady" would seem to refer to more than physical coordination. Perhaps cognitive ability?

    Thankfully he did not "point and click."
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    How many bullets were in his dual action magazine/pointer?


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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    How many bullets were in his dual action magazine/pointer?


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    I gotta get me one of those ! 2 for 1 !

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    The Swedes got upset because he swept one of their heads. Man, I would have been jumping for cover from an idiot like that. And.......what was the dumma$$ doing in a prohibited space with a weapon, let alone "brandishing"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    The Swedes got upset because he swept one of their heads.
    he's lucky those swedes didnt throw an axe back at him!

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    Didn't you all get the memo? Gov. employees are above the law. I bet he gets promoted now!

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    Handgun used as laser pointer by state official reportedly rattles foreign delegates

    "Jerome M. Hauer, Gov. Andrew Cuomo's director of homeland security, took out his handgun and used the laser sighting device attached to the barrel as a pointer in a presentation to a foreign delegation, according to public officials.

    Swedish emergency managers in the delegation were rattled when the gun's laser tracked across one of their heads before Hauer found the map of New York.

    Hauer was disabled by a stroke a few years ago and can be unsteady.

    He carries the loaded 9-millimeter Glock in a holster into state buildings, an apparent violation of state law."

    link to article:>>>; http://www.timesunion.com/local/arti...#photo-5683948

    Question, aside from the fact that this guy is totally Stupid, does this act qualify as "Brandishing a Weapon" ?
    Last edited by scott58dh; 01-09-2014 at 11:23 PM. Reason: additional info

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    Don't you know, laws only apply to the little people. Not the Kings men.

    You or I do this and we are in big trouble and face possible jail time. I doubt if any charges will be brought in this case. I am sure however this guy could have easily afforded a normal laser pointer.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Don't you know, laws only apply to the little people. Not the Kings men.

    You or I do this and we are in big trouble and face possible jail time. I doubt if any charges will be brought in this case. I am sure however this guy could have easily afforded a normal laser pointer.....
    You can say that again ! plus,,, He can always get a *Minion* to point for him !

    USa,,, "We the People" vs Them,,, the Beautiful People !

    He could have at the very least given the Foreign Dignitaries a fair warning,,,

    "Excuse me while I whip this out !"
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    This guy sounds sharp as a tack.

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    Stroke...unsteady...why is this guy issued a government gat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    This guy sounds sharp as a tack.
    Short w/flat head - often used to secure carpet.
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by article
    ...three Swedish emergency managers in the delegation were rattled when the gun's laser tracked across one of their heads before Hauer found the map of New York...
    That could take quite some time, for the typical American.
    "It's not important how many people I've killed. What's important is how I get along with the people who are still alive" - Jimmy the Tulip

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    thanx for the heads up.
    sorry for duplicate post.
    i looked back a ways but didn't see anything,,,,

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