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    HB639: Con Carry?

    Looks like Con Carry:

    HB 639 Concealed handgun permits; residents of the Commonwealth
    Allows any resident of the Commonwealth who is otherwise eligible to obtain a concealed handgun permit to carry a concealed handgun without a permit anywhere he may lawfully carry a handgun within the Commonwealth.
    Maybe?

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    Here's the full text, in context:

    C. Except as provided in subsection A of 18.2-308.012 [you cannot carry if you are intoxicated with alcohol or other drug - TFred], this section shall not apply to:

    12. For the sole purpose of carrying a concealed handgun, any resident of the Commonwealth who carries a concealed handgun anywhere he may lawfully carry a handgun openly within the Commonwealth and who is otherwise qualified under this article to obtain a concealed handgun permit.

    Interesting that the way they wrote it does not make sense grammatically. "shall not apply to: for the sole purpose of ..." All the other paragraphs actually make sense if read together as a sentence, such as:

    C. Except as provided in subsection A of 18.2-308.012, this section shall not apply to: 1. Any person while in his own place of business;

    The only problem I see with such an idea is what if one is disqualified, but does not know it? I suppose it is a step in the right direction. As I noted in a post a while back, there really are not very many differences between qualified to possess and qualified to carry concealed.

    TFred

    P.S. I noticed that it was introduced by Jeffrey Campbell, who was just elected for the first time this past November. Very good and quite encouraging to see such a pro-gun bill from a Freshman Delegate!
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    So how would this affect felons if they carry a BP revolver concealed? They are disqualified to possess a firearm, but not a antique firearm.
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    Think the bill is full of good intentions, but needs a little polishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    So how would this affect felons if they carry a BP revolver concealed? They are disqualified to possess a firearm, but not a antique firearm.
    In Va...WW, BP guns are no different than cartridge guns with respect to possession by felons. They are all firearms.

    Also, eveyone still needs a CHP to carry a BP pistol concealed.
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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Think the bill is full of good intentions, but needs a little polishing.
    What are you doing standing around yammering? Chop-chop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylde007 View Post
    What are you doing standing around yammering? Chop-chop.

    We're polishing as fast as we can.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    We're polishing as fast as we can.

    It has a lot of promise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    It has a lot of promise!
    Delegate Campbell as a freshman is showing that he has a lot of promise himself - haven't meet him yet, but intend to do so.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

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