eye95
Well-known member
Horrible advice on two counts.
1. The proprietor clearly does not want carry. He likely mistakenly believes that only CC is legal and only CC needs to be prohibited.
2. See the post immediately above mine.
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Confusing sign, advice?
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Horrible advice on two counts.
1. The proprietor clearly does not want carry. He likely mistakenly believes that only CC is legal and only CC needs to be prohibited.
2. See the post immediately above mine.
Rusty Young Man
Regular Member
open Carry in... if asked to leave, tell them they need a sign that explains things more clearly.... have this one already printed out and hand it to them...
That's actually pretty funny, and I've shown that to a few friends on occasion (when discussing signs and CRIMINALS' indifference to the law).
On a more serious note, I hope you posted that sign only in fun, and are not intent on presenting a sign to a possible on-the-fence or consummate anti.
@ Maverick9, MyWifeSaidYes, and JustaShooter: that is too funny. Thanks for the laugh.
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OC for ME
Regular Member
It seems to me, and I could be wrong, that this sign is being offered to replace a existing sign.open Carry in... if asked to leave, tell them they need a sign that explains things more clearly.... have this one already printed out and hand it to them...
SteveInCO
Regular Member
Yes, given that the sign is offered as a rather snarky "you dumbass" replacement for an existing sign, I think the specific kind of outrage at the suggestion we are seeing here is (in this case) unjustified.
I *do* understand you don't want to suggest a sign where there isn't already one there--the "FGS don't do that!" would be justified in those circumstances.
That having been said, whether you want to open carry into a place that almost certainly doesn't welcome it, just to point out that the management is full of dumbass, is another question entirely.
I *do* understand you don't want to suggest a sign where there isn't already one there--the "FGS don't do that!" would be justified in those circumstances.
That having been said, whether you want to open carry into a place that almost certainly doesn't welcome it, just to point out that the management is full of dumbass, is another question entirely.
MyWifeSaidYes
Regular Member
Yeah, the "All patrons have been disarmed for your convenience" went over some folks heads.
It is NEVER a good idea to suggest a sign where none exists, obviously.
But to suggest a sign such as the one offered doesn't actually hurt anything IMHO, IF THERE IS ALREADY A SIGN.
It is NEVER a good idea to suggest a sign where none exists, obviously.
But to suggest a sign such as the one offered doesn't actually hurt anything IMHO, IF THERE IS ALREADY A SIGN.
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davidmcbeth
Banned
One could talk to the owner and inform him that not allowing guns in and not having adequate security puts him in legal liability for any injury to a person in his store.
Ask him if he has insurance for this..
Make it about $$$$
Ask him if he has insurance for this..
Make it about $$$$
MyWifeSaidYes
Regular Member
Regarding a concealed handgun licensee in Ohio, you can't make it about the business' decision about allowing or restricting carry. There is a clause in the concealed carry law that gives them immunity from civil action:
You'll notice that the above clause ONLY applies to a CHL holder, not an open carrier.
davidmcbeth
Banned
Regarding a concealed handgun licensee in Ohio, you can't make it about the business' decision about allowing or restricting carry. There is a clause in the concealed carry law that gives them immunity from civil action:
You'll notice that the above clause ONLY applies to a CHL holder, not an open carrier.
THEY don't know that..also, it says private employer, not employee who makes the decision ... wonder how this would play out in court
Virginia has no "bars." License to sell alcohol is tied to food sales = restaurants.
You have the mode of carry and legality to indulge totally misrepresented.
In Va. one may OC and enjoy an adult beverage.
CC is legal where alcohol is sold, but consumption becomes illegal except for a few more equal groups.
http://my.opencarry.org/?page_id=150
He posted in the Ohio subforum. One can make the reasonable assumption that it is in Ohio
In the case of being in Ohio, it doesn't matter what city because they're all governed by ORC 9.68
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Ragedefined
New member
I'm from the Husker nation. I have read in the past (in atleast omaha) that you cannot open carry in places that restrict conceal carry. The same rules apply to open as they do conceal. Here If I walked in with an open carry they could charge me with a misdemeanor.
Id have to look up where I found that if someone's wondering.
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Id have to look up where I found that if someone's wondering.
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eye95
Well-known member
I'm from the Husker nation. I have read in the past (in atleast omaha) that you cannot open carry in places that restrict conceal carry. The same rules apply to open as they do conceal. Here If I walked in with an open carry they could charge me with a misdemeanor.
Id have to look up where I found that if someone's wondering.
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It is logical that a property owner who is prohibiting concealed carry is really intending to prohibit all carry. However, in Ohio, I know of no law that would require an OCer to assume that he cannot carry past a sign prohibiting only CC. I recommend making that assumption--unless one has good reason to assume otherwise.
Welcome to OCDO.
In spite of state preemption, Omaha has a special ordinance.
Handgun registration with the police department is required if you do not have a CCW permit. Handgun registration is simply to let OPD know there's a handgun in the city and is separate from the "open carry permit" that Omaha requires if you want to open carry and do not have a CCW permit. (http://www.safenebraska.org/safe-working/concealed-carry-handgun-training.php)
http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php?topic=10135.0
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?85312-How-to-Open-Carry-in-Omaha
Handgun registration with the police department is required if you do not have a CCW permit. Handgun registration is simply to let OPD know there's a handgun in the city and is separate from the "open carry permit" that Omaha requires if you want to open carry and do not have a CCW permit. (http://www.safenebraska.org/safe-working/concealed-carry-handgun-training.php)
http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php?topic=10135.0
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?85312-How-to-Open-Carry-in-Omaha
color of law
Accomplished Advocate
Thanks for posting this info. I'm sure this will discourage any gun loving Ohioan not to move to Nebraska.