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    Make your own,

    If you like making things and have a Tandy leather store close, or live near the Mennonites you can get some leather and do it your self. You can lace them up by hand or if you have a sewing contraption or do it by hand their fun to make.
    Remember,, nothing is hard to do, once you know how to do it.
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    I have no idea how that tandy got a link hooked to it, I didn't put it there, and nothing shows up when I try to edit it.
    And the link takes you to K mart. Interesting....
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    Thanks for the reply, I have no idea how that is doing what it is doing. That's a first for me. Looks like it's time for me to learn something, I hate doing that. Every time I learn one thing, I find out I have to learn 5 more things to go with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbles View Post
    Thanks for the reply, I have no idea how that is doing what it is doing. That's a first for me. Looks like it's time for me to learn something, I hate doing that. Every time I learn one thing, I find out I have to learn 5 more things to go with it.
    The forum automatically places advertising related links on certain keywords in posts. Presumably the forum owner derives some revenue from that ad placement. The links aren't actually part of your post, hence you can't edit them.

    It would be nice if somehow the process that inserts the links made it a little more clear that it was a system thing and the links weren't put there by the OP as they could very well lead to someplace the poster wouldn't wish to support (and the links being in their post may imply that they support such place if readers don't know the poster didn't place the links).

    Not a big deal, but something that has crossed my mind before.
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    Good point BrianB, and true. I make belts, rifle slings and dog leash's and collers using the trick braid. I had a member ask me how I do it so I found a link that gave very easy instructions and posted it. Two days later I went back to the post and found out it was a link to a S&M site. I put the link on a family black power site. Yep,, I heard about that one.
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    I make my own stuff but do not use Tandy. They has always been overpriced in my experience.
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    I'm a DIY-er of the Kydex fashion. Made my own rinky-dink press and everything. Fun stuff.

    It's pretty cheap to get started if you already have the tools and stuff.

    Plus, working with your hands is a great stress reliever.
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    I like leather better than kydex. I just made a crossdraw with 5 oz lace belly yesterday. The lace leather is very light but absorbs hot wax like a towel absorbs water. When done I end up with a kydex like leather holster that will not stress crack like kydex over time. I'll try to get up a photo tomorrow, it is not a pretty holster, nothing fancy but very functional, and with the same retention qualities of kydex. The kicker is~~~that lace bellies are very inexpensive, if I remember correctly I paid 5 dollars for this one and I can still make a couple more holsters out of it.

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    That's my current belt configuration. Pretty cheap to do, used about $15 worth of materials.

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    Sans knives, for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvertongue View Post
    That's my current belt configuration. Pretty cheap to do, used about $15 worth of materials.

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    Sans knives, for now.
    Nice rig & should the pistol malfunction, you could always use that HUGE phone as a bludgeon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Nice rig & should the pistol malfunction, you could always use that HUGE phone as a bludgeon!
    "Sam Sung makes a heavy cellular."

    Adopted from Ed Harris in Appaloosa.

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    Here's a rig I made a few years back -
    The belt is just a ten dollar tool belt from Home Depot. The holsters and shotgun shell holder I made from whatever leather I had laying around at the time. I dyed everything with a strong mix of tea and coffee.
    Yeah, this rig is for SASS as you can tell from the two-at-a-time shotgun shell holder and the second left hand holster ( which shows almost no wear! The right hand does because it got used for daily carry quite a bit ).

    This year I made two holsters for some cap and ball guns, just laced together out of leather from an old farriers apron that I found in a friends barn. Because the leather is so stiff and scarred they came out looking nice and rustic. Sorry, I don't have any photos of 'em.

    I stated making holsters for my thumbusters two decades ago. Most were stitched, but come to think about it the laced ones saw the most use. Lacing 'em up along the edge of a single folded sheet of leather is a right easy way to make a great holster.

    Wait, found another pic - This one of a rig I made for my wifes Glock 17L.
    Ya can't find holsters for these long barreled glocks very easily, and my wife didn't like what I did find. So that was definitely a case of necessity.

    Walking Wolf,
    I've never dipped my holsters in melted wax and am curious to learn more about the process and why you might do that. You use bees wax or paraffin? Does it shrink the leather?

    That's a neat little cross draw rig you show, but it is made of awful thin leather. Does it collapse when the weapon is drawn?
    One thing I learned doing SASS shooting is that a fast re-holster is just as important as a reasonably fast and fumble free draw. 'Course that's just because they use two side arms in a match. Daily carry it probably isn't as much of a big deal, but when I ride I do like a holster that will keep its shape so I can easily re-holster it one handed if I had to draw.
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    Hot waxing leather makes it like armor, except very water resistant. The leather for the cross draw is only 5 oz, but it is very stiff and does not collapse. I use mostly paraffin from tea candles, but I have used bees wax. The soldiers in Europe used bees wax to make their leather armor. Beeswax has a higher melting point then most paraffin wax, but my holsters hold up well even when it is hot outside. I have not checked the melting point of the candles, but tea candles are small slow burning candles. I can buy them cheap from Big Lots.
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    Yeah, I seem to remember something about "cuir bouilli" ( not sure about the spelling there ) waxed or boiled leather armor from my D&D days back in the late 70 - early 80s.

    I've never tried the technique but I might have to look into it. Thick leather for holsters sure is getting spendy and lined holsters are to much trouble for me.

    Where do you get your light leather?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EtdBob View Post
    Yeah, I seem to remember something about "cuir bouilli" ( not sure about the spelling there ) waxed or boiled leather armor from my D&D days back in the late 70 - early 80s.

    I've never tried the technique but I might have to look into it. Thick leather for holsters sure is getting spendy and lined holsters are to much trouble for me.

    Where do you get your light leather?
    I got the last batch from leather unlimited. I used to get leather from a luggage manufacturer years ago, but they have gone out of business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I like leather better than kydex. I just made a crossdraw with 5 oz lace belly yesterday. The lace leather is very light but absorbs hot wax like a towel absorbs water. When done I end up with a kydex like leather holster that will not stress crack like kydex over time. I'll try to get up a photo tomorrow, it is not a pretty holster, nothing fancy but very functional, and with the same retention qualities of kydex. The kicker is~~~that lace bellies are very inexpensive, if I remember correctly I paid 5 dollars for this one and I can still make a couple more holsters out of it.

    Did you make the gun too? Then you'll be the master...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Did you make the gun too? Then you'll be the master...
    Nope, the gun is a old Colt Police Positive in 32-20 manufactured in 1911.
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    Been making my own for about 4 years or so now.. come to think of it, I've never actually bought a holster from anywhere, I just made my own.. got into even messing with leather out of frustration from not being able to find any decent leather ones to fit my 845...made several custom ones for others, as well.







    Also make my own knife sheaths, and gun-belts, made a few sheaths/holsters for a few forum-members here, also.





    And I make my own knives, and handles for knives




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    Quote Originally Posted by j4l View Post
    Been making my own for about 4 years or so now.. come to think of it, I've never actually bought a holster from anywhere, I just made my own.. got into even messing with leather out of frustration from not being able to find any decent leather ones to fit my 845...made several custom ones for others, as well.







    Also make my own knife sheaths, and gun-belts, made a few sheaths/holsters for a few forum-members here, also.





    And I make my own knives, and handles for knives



    That, sir, is some beautiful work. Have you ever gotten into recurve blades?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Hot waxing leather makes it like armor, except very water resistant. The leather for the cross draw is only 5 oz, but it is very stiff and does not collapse. I use mostly paraffin from tea candles, but I have used bees wax. The soldiers in Europe used bees wax to make their leather armor. Beeswax has a higher melting point then most paraffin wax, but my holsters hold up well even when it is hot outside. I have not checked the melting point of the candles, but tea candles are small slow burning candles. I can buy them cheap from Big Lots.
    Wait, so the ~130 Fahrenheit melting point of common candle paraffin hasn't been an issue? I figured you only used bees wax or high melting point (150-165 Fahrenheit) wax. Then again, maybe heat like that is only an AZ worry?

    @j4l: really like the look of the first holster and the "CDB" sheath.
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    Maybe I'll make a belt too hold all my mags .... not that I can only have rounders (lol) I'll need to carry about 25-50 mags around .... anyone make a vest w/mag holders or belts for mag?

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    I like leather, and I like hot wax



    I finally went through with it, and now have stiff-as-Kydex leather. I call it Leatherdex (TM).
    It started off as a hesitant experiment to hot wax my "regular" belt, then turned into a hot waxing frenzy in which I also waxed my gun belt and my holster.

    BTW, Walking Wolf wasn't lying about the stiffness of the draw. I had to re-do my holster and let it cool with my sidearm + THREE thick bags to get a rough equivalent of the pre-wax draw. This must have been the first time I looked like a complete idiot while OCing (with what looked like bags in my holster). I'll get some photos up as soon as I can.


    *Add.*
    Just to avoid confusion, the holster itself is a Galco Concealable, and the belts were made by a shoe repair guy in the PHX area who does all sorts of leather work. I have yet to formally start leather working beyond some (crude-looking) knife sheaths I made about 2 years ago.
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    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post


    I finally went through with it, and now have stiff-as-Kydex leather. I call it Leatherdex (TM).
    It started off as a hesitant experiment to hot wax my "regular" belt, then turned into a hot waxing frenzy in which I also waxed my gun belt and my holster.

    BTW, Walking Wolf wasn't lying about the stiffness of the draw. I had to re-do my holster and let it cool with my sidearm + THREE thick bags to get a rough equivalent of the pre-wax draw. This must have been the first time I looked like a complete idiot while OCing (with what looked like bags in my holster). I'll get some photos up as soon as I can.
    Please do post pics when possible!

    What kind of wax did you use, and did you dunk the pieces, or brush it on?

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    I actually did take a few photos of the process for my gun belt, so I'll try to get those up sometime between tonight and Monday night.

    I bought a slab of high melting point paraffin wax locally (~150 Fahrentheit), and I melted some of it (~3 lbs?) in one of those large corn cans. I just melted enough to give me an extra half inch over the depth of my belt (so it had roughly 2.5 inches of wax in there).
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    I rolled up the belt and dunked it into the wax while keeping it warm.
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    Bubbles of air formed, and I kind of stirred it to speed this up.
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    After about 20 minutes (anything worth doing is worth overdoing), I uncurled the belt out bit by bit, wiping off the excess wax with a cotton rag. Sorry, no pics, but I took my time and burnt my fingers quite a bit.
    Then I just set the belt in a cookie sheet to cool and harden in an oval shape akin to my waist dimensions.
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    The holster was done nearly the same, but so as to avoid using more wax, I just tipped the can to soak half the holster at a time. I made sure to wrap my 1911 in two thick bags (the first time), then dunked the holster. I held it long enough to warm up the leather for each half, then pulled it out and wiped it as well, including the insides (good thing, since even then I have a slight excess in there).
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    Once it was wiped down, I put the bagged gun into it and put it on my belt (the first one I did that evening, which had cooled after 30 minutes), placing it into the normal carry position and burning my fingers some more.

    When it had cooled, I discovered that TWO hands were needed to draw the bagged gun. Unbagged, it could be done with one hand, but JUST BARELY. So I repeated the procedure, but used THREE thick bags for the final forming.
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    Now my holster is Kydex-hard, but leather-awesome. I call it Leatherdex. Grips it really well, and *clicks* into place when reholstering.

    *Add.*
    Just to avoid confusion, the holster itself is a Galco Concealable, and the belts were made by a shoe repair guy in the PHX area who does all sorts of leather work. I have yet to formally start leather working beyond some (crude-looking) knife sheaths I made about 2 years ago.
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    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

    “Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” - Frederic Bastiat

    "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." - Edmund Burke

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