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    Guns Across America Friend or Foe

    I discovered today that the group Guns Across America sponsored a nationwide State capitol protest scheduled for high noon today on Sunday, Jan 19th, 2014.

    I heard about a similar activity last year and was part of a couple thousand strong group in as I remember 20 degree F and windy conditions. I also saw several posts form others about the activities in various States. This year I never heard a word about it at all until someone on another state level gun rights forum I participate in posted about it 4 hours or so AFTER it was scheduled to occur. That poster also had heard noting about this years activity.

    Going to the group's FB page for UTAH I see about 20 pics of about 10-15 persons (being generous on the numbers) at the Utah State Capitol.

    I don't know if this groups purpose is to make us "gun nuts" look extreme fringe or not but by this years apparent lack of advertising at least in Utah, it may be the end result.

    Doing a search for the groups name on this forum resulted in a few entries for LAST year (2013) but NOTHING on this forum for this year---- not a singe comment from anyone.

    Was ANYONE on OCDO aware of this action for today, anyone at all?
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    I was part of about 75 at the Ohio Statehouse. Over 1,000 last year. Colder this year.


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    Thanks for the response.

    Changing my search from "Guns across America" to a four letter variant I did get a couple of responses... One for Ohio where you made a glancing reference and another from AZ where there was a "stickie" about it.

    Nothing else.....
    RIGHTS don't exist without RESPONSIBILITY!
    If one is not willing to stand for his rights, he doesn't have any Rights.
    I will strive to stand for the rights of ANY person, even those folks with whom I disagree!
    As said by SVG--- "I am not anti-COP, I am PRO-Citizen" and I'll add, PRO-Constitution.
    If the above makes me a RADICAL or EXTREME--- So be it!

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    We have many different groups in Ohio and a bunch of indies who won't affiliate (like me). I have started the eye95 Twitter feed to publicize gun-rights events in Ohio. Folks can subscribe to this feed without having to join a message board or Facebook. I will only use this feed to shout out events, so folks don't have to worry about being spammed by this feed. Currently, that means 1 or 2 tweets per week.

    If folks will keep me posted and will subscribe to the feed, we can increase what is now woeful cross-site communication.


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    I am told this is a one man show based out of Texas. It is a good idea IMHO, just not well funded or organized, which is understandable, it seems billionaires (Bloomberg) only fund anti 2A/ anti Human rights efforts.

    I only knew about it due to a small blurb in my local paper & I posted the info to my state forum here. We (family) had planned to attend but the FLU had other plans for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    I discovered today that the group Guns Across America sponsored a nationwide State capitol protest scheduled for high noon today on Sunday, Jan 19th, 2014.

    I heard about a similar activity last year and was part of a couple thousand strong group in as I remember 20 degree F and windy conditions. I also saw several posts form others about the activities in various States. This year I never heard a word about it at all until someone on another state level gun rights forum I participate in posted about it 4 hours or so AFTER it was scheduled to occur. That poster also had heard noting about this years activity.

    Going to the group's FB page for UTAH I see about 20 pics of about 10-15 persons (being generous on the numbers) at the Utah State Capitol.

    I don't know if this groups purpose is to make us "gun nuts" look extreme fringe or not but by this years apparent lack of advertising at least in Utah, it may be the end result.

    Doing a search for the groups name on this forum resulted in a few entries for LAST year (2013) but NOTHING on this forum for this year---- not a singe comment from anyone.

    Was ANYONE on OCDO aware of this action for today, anyone at all?
    I also heard about it on short notice; roughly one week before the rally, I saw a post on a classifieds page (I was looking for deals on ammo), clicked on the link, and read about it. I remembered last year's GRAA message, and this one (in AZ at least) seemed a little more organized, what with a list of speakers. Then I read the post that FreeInAZ put in the Arizona forum, and I tried to disseminate the details as much as I could.
    It is (so VERY obviously) a grassroots movement, and with no billionaire sugar daddy, it really does depend on the strength of will and resilience of patriots. At any rate, several searches bring up pages and blogs or the antis ranting about the GRAA event.

    @FreeInAZ: hope you and the family get better. Also, you haven't posted (your non-event OC encounters) to the AZ forum lately (I'm guilty of it as well).
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    Since I asked the question here there is a single pic posted from Lousianna---- shows less than 10 in attendance.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/at...8&d=1390193330
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    I will strive to stand for the rights of ANY person, even those folks with whom I disagree!
    As said by SVG--- "I am not anti-COP, I am PRO-Citizen" and I'll add, PRO-Constitution.
    If the above makes me a RADICAL or EXTREME--- So be it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    Since I asked the question here there is a single pic posted from Lousianna---- shows less than 10 in attendance.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/at...8&d=1390193330
    Here are two photos from the AZ FB page for GRAA:

    (I really like the guy with the slung rifle in the background)

    And one that gives a better idea of the number in attendance:

    Also, I'd like to make it clear that I was NOT in attendance, but only because I was unable to procure a ride to PHX (I am in Tucson attending the U of A).
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    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

    “Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” - Frederic Bastiat

    "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." - Edmund Burke

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    Last year many States had THOUSANDS in attendance. I don't know the changes made in advertising for this year but the advertising was MUCH LESS EFFECTIVE.

    I've told the UTAH group that even though I "follow" and "liked" them on FB I never saw a thing about it--- Nothing! And I would have been in attendance HAD I HEARD ABOUT IT!
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    RIGHTS don't exist without RESPONSIBILITY!
    If one is not willing to stand for his rights, he doesn't have any Rights.
    I will strive to stand for the rights of ANY person, even those folks with whom I disagree!
    As said by SVG--- "I am not anti-COP, I am PRO-Citizen" and I'll add, PRO-Constitution.
    If the above makes me a RADICAL or EXTREME--- So be it!

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    Lack of publicity would definitely have to be the biggest shortfall for GRAA this year (last year would have been organization, but you can't beat the fact that it was a grassroots effort by nearly every definition). As I said, I only saw the poster (very well made, by the way) on a classifieds page about a week before the event, and then on the AZ forum when FreeInAZ posted it as well, but no other places.

    Believe me when I say I would have been in attendance with my OCed 1911 had I been able to find a ride. Just looking at the photos, I can tell I missed a great gathering. Turns out university kids are a little less "motivated" than I would like, and my lack of any vehicle ownership didn't help matters either.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    A t-shirts that states "Obama won't let me hunt the homeless for sport that's why I'm voting Tea Party"

    Yup, that's the promoting that the Tea party is looking for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    A t-shirts that states "Obama won't let me hunt the homeless for sport that's why I'm voting Tea Party"

    Yup, that's the promoting that the Tea party is looking for.

    Yeah, isn't it hunting illegals for sport that they support?

    I kid; I kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    A t-shirts that states "Obama won't let me hunt the homeless for sport that's why I'm voting Tea Party"

    Yup, that's the promoting that the Tea party is looking for.

    The antis aren't above such childish antics; while we may joke on here about showing up with a sign that says "Moms For Unarmed Victims" or the like, we abstain out of decency. They, however, seem to lack it. So yes, you can sometimes see someone with something that stupid written on their shirt/sign, but I'd be willing to bet it was just an "infiltrator".
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Here in Oregon we had a lower turnout that last year. Word on the street was the date and time on Sunday kept avid church goers away and some football game kept others away. It was cold but not as cold as last year so weather shouldn't have been a contributing factor.

    Still, we had several hundred in attendance.

    The event here in Oregon was all over facebook as well as distributed via numerous email lists from gun rights groups and the like.

    EDIT ADD: On review of my video of the event, it looks like "several hundred" is an overestimate. More like 150 to 200
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