WalkingWolf
Regular Member
PT Barnum says...
PT Barnum says...
According to attorney Rich Miller (who has handled many cases against Remington), all Remington bolt-action rifles - not just the Model 700 - built since 1950 contain a trigger group known as the Walker Fire Control System. Miller says "At one time, and maybe still today, the Remington 700 was the world's best selling bolt action rifle. They knew from day one they had a fatal flaw. The downside is that the same mechanism can fail and that was recognized on the face of Walker's patent in 1950 that if you don't do this right the gun might fire on safety release."
According to an internal Remington memo, the actual sequence required to make a gun malfunction, or "trick," is to place the safety between the "safe" and "fire" positions, pull the trigger, and then place the safety in the "fire" position - which causes affected guns to fire. I can't make my model 700 fire in this manner, but it is allegedly possible.
CNBC, being the lone arbiter of what was displayed on their show, has the right to distort their facts as much as they please.Listen... I get it guys. Remington fans will NEVER admit that the 700s shoot without pulling the trigger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-95Df5gKs0
look at the 41 sec. mark. <snip>
CNBC, being the lone arbiter of what was displayed on their show, has the right to distort their facts as much as they please.
Remington's response.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_KVS1hIbQg
If anyone is injured, including the shooter, or their is property damage, or the round does not land in a safe place it is negligent. Anyone chambering a round on any gun without it pointing in a safe place is a idiot.
BTW how many "accidental" discharges have some of you have?
Of course. But that wasn't what you said, and I responded to. If a person is properly observing all safety rules and a firearm malfunctions and discharges - again, using the example of the XDs discharging when chambering a round - is it not an accidental discharge?
NO it is not, because there is NO damage or injury. It is just a discharge that was unintentional. A accident denotes damage to person or property. If some idiot chambers a round in an XD and it injures someone or damages property that idiot has had a negligent discharge.
It is one of the reasons professionals use clearing barrels. Accident should be stricken from the dictionary because there is no such thing. There is always a reason, whether the reason is a malfunction or human error does not matter. Anytime there is damage to property or/and injury the idiot has had a negligent discharge.
People who believe in accidents are not competent enough to carry firearms.
That's why I don't like, or have any, guns with only a trigger safety. The XD, and others, have both a grip and trigger safety, making the incident the unfortunate police chief experienced, almost impossible. His first injury due to ND was even more avoidable, and IMO stupid.
The "safety between the ears" has been found to be one of the most unreliable safeties ever "installed" into a gun. Fortunately, and knock on wood, the one I have has yet to fail me.
Grip safety doesn't do jack diddily, he even says in the article he was pushing down on the gun to holster it, meaning a hand on grip, disengaging the grip safety and allowing it to be fired. so an XD would make no dfference.
Yet he still makes excuses, and then the excuse squad comes to his defense probably because they have screwed up also.
Burn into memory, take full responsibility.
Muscle memory. As a martial artist, I can attest that muscle memory will never fail you. Once you make it habit, you always do that one task the same exact way.
Experience is a good teacher. Bad experience is a better teacher.
There are two of us it seems.When I push down on my XD during the re-holstering process I do not engage the grip safety. It take practice, but once learned, it becomes second nature. I know that a [strike]non-[/strike] manually activated external safety (1911 thumb) is a good way to prevent the wandering finger on the trigger "accident." Knowing the operation of the XD I made adjustments to mitigate a wandering finger. Glocks have no such "back-up" capability.
The more safeties the safer the gat. Obviously, the fewer the safeties, essentially, for a Glock, the owner must rely upon the "safety between the ears" alone, the unsafer the gat.Wrong, wrong, wrong.
To holster the XD without any risk of ejecting the chambered round, I find it best to holster with my thumb on the back of the slide (this is perfectly natural and doesn't slow the holstering action, or make it more awkward, btw). With this procedure, the grip safety is deactivated during holstering.
The XD is a safer platform than the Glock, period, end of discussion. Disagreement only proves fanboyism.
I'm sick of the noobery in "conventional wisdom".
In truth, the Glock was designed for braindead, gun-ignorant European idiots who'd never handled a gun before their beneficent government placed one in their hands. Fortunately, I'm an American and, consequently, have the brainpower and experience requisite to properly utilize a firearm (much less a little lever).