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    Bill [S.308] allowing concealed weapons in restaurants passes S.C. House, Chas. P&C

    "The 90-18 vote came amid some backlash in the Lowcountry, as many bar and restaurant owners and managers were finding out about the new law. Restaurants that want to keep firearms out of their establishments will have to post a sign that says those guns are not welcome."

    http://www.postandcourier.com/articl...aurants-passes

    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess120_.../bills/308.htm

    TO AMEND SECTION 16-23-465 OF THE 1976 CODE, RELATING TO THE CARRYING OF A CONCEALED WEAPON IN A BUSINESS THAT SELLS ALCOHOL TO BE CONSUMED ON THE PREMISES, TO PERMIT THE POSSESSION OF A WEAPON UNLESS NOTICE OF A PROHIBITION IS PROVIDED BY THE BUSINESS, TO PROHIBIT THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN A BUSINESS BY SOMEONE CARRYING A FIREARM, AND TO REDUCE THE PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS.
    SCHUYLER KROPF's sidebar carefully exposes his and the P&C anti-gun position.
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    The comments are hilarious "This is a Republican "RED NECK" law that is going to get people killed. Why would any Democrat, in good faith, vote for a bill that is going to get Black people killed. As soon as a Black man talk to a white woman in one of these bars he is going to be shot. And shot legally. Blacks had better stay out of these white men bars"
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    comments to story

    the editorial comments afterwards are interesting. One woman wrote that the police are there to protect us and nobody needs a gun in a bar. Well, hope she is near a cop the next time she calls for help. As much as I admire LE, they can't protect the average citizen sufficiently. You have to be ready to defend yourself and family if the need arises. The Police simply can't get there fast enough to help you out. Nothing against LEO, they definitely try but are undermanned and underfunded.

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    William Hamilton discovers the good sense of SC 23-31-235 Sign requirements

    We called SLED this morning to find out where businesses could buy signs which met the specific requirements of the SC Law, which are different from the ISO copliant signs you can buy online or in office supply stores. They said any local sign shop was could produce them. Not so. The local companies we talked to had never seen the statutory requirements for a legally effective sign. That is pretty important since concealed weapons permit instructors are telling traineees they can ignore signs which don't meet the requirements of the SC Law. We've blogged our quest for signs. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...ms-in-Our-Time
    SECTION 23-31-235. Sign requirements.

    (A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this article, any requirement of or allowance for the posting of signs prohibiting the carrying of a concealable weapon upon any premises shall only be satisfied by a sign expressing the prohibition in both written language interdict and universal sign language.

    (B) All signs must be posted at each entrance into a building where a concealable weapon permit holder is prohibited from carrying a concealable weapon and must be:

    (1) clearly visible from outside the building;

    (2) eight inches wide by twelve inches tall in size; Cannot be reproduced on a home copy machine!

    (3) contain the words "NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED" in black one-inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

    (4) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle seven inches in diameter with a diagonal line that runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty-five degree angle from the horizontal;

    (5) a diameter of a circle; and

    (6) placed not less than forty inches and not more than sixty inches from the bottom of the building's entrance door. Must be a clear and in-your-face statement of discrimination!

    (C) If the premises where concealable weapons are prohibited does not have doors, then the signs contained in subsection (A) must be:

    (1) thirty-six inches wide by forty-eight inches tall in size;Unless you are a BigBox store like Costco, they can be sly.

    (2) contain the words "NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED" in black three- inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

    (3) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle thirty-four inches in diameter with a diagonal line that is two inches wide and runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty-five degree angle from the horizontal and must be a diameter of a circle whose circumference is two inches wide;

    (4) placed not less than forty inches and not more than ninety-six inches above the ground;

    (5) posted in sufficient quantities to be clearly visible from any point of entry onto the premises.
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    S.308 Ratified! Rat#0127

    AN ACT TO AMEND SECTION 16-23-465, AS AMENDED, CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA, 1976, RELATING TO THE PROHIBITION ON THE CARRYING OF A PISTOL OR FIREARM INTO A BUSINESS THAT SELLS ALCOHOLIC LIQUORS, BEER, OR WINE TO BE CONSUMED ON THE PREMISES, SO AS TO PROVIDE THAT THE PROHIBITION DOES NOT APPLY TO PERSONS CARRYING A CONCEALABLE WEAPON IN COMPLIANCE WITH A CONCEALABLE WEAPON PERMIT UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, INCLUDING THAT THE PERSON MAY NOT CONSUME ALCOHOLIC LIQUOR, BEER, OR WINE WHILE CARRYING THE CONCEALABLE WEAPON ON THE PREMISES; TO PROVIDE THAT THE BUSINESS MAY CHOOSE TO PROHIBIT THE CARRYING OF CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ON ITS PREMISES BY POSTING NOTICE; TO REVISE THE PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, AND TO MAKE TECHNICAL CHANGES;

    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess120_...s/20140205.htm
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