Primus
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Oh ok I was thinking maybe campus police since he was rocking a deity belt. Thanks for the correction though.
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Just got told by a patron at Starbucks that I should leave...while in uniform.
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Oh ok I was thinking maybe campus police since he was rocking a deity belt. Thanks for the correction though.
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Difdi
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Hey, if you're going to go that route, why not go all the way?
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DocWalker
Regular Member
Dam, you just don't get it. Starbucks DIDN"T BAN GUNS, they are trying to play both sides of the fence on the issue. They said they WON'T ban gun but trying to appease the anti's they also added that they prefer that people didn't bring guns into the stores but said they would still serve you and that GUNS ARE NOT BANNED.
I don't drink starbucks anymore but it is up to each person to make that choice.
STARBUCKS DIDN"T BAN GUNS....PERIOD GET IT....
papa bear
Regular Member
right on DOCwalker
to repeat there are no private property rights in the USA. there is only private property (as in resident), open to the public property, and closed business property. all are covered by law not rights
to repeat there are no private property rights in the USA. there is only private property (as in resident), open to the public property, and closed business property. all are covered by law not rights
What don't I get?
I read (and posted) the "request." Conveniently, none of you copied my entire post, presumably because it justifies my position.
There is nothing in the "request" that welcomes guns...except for LEO.
If the OP is under the exception to the policy, regarding authorized LEO, then this whole conversation is moot. By virtue of the fact that a patron took issue, I would guess he wasn't obviously LEO at the time.
Bottom line is Starbuck's can make its policy, and we HAVE to respect it. Whether it's a private residence or a business, the person who owns/controls it can dictate how people will conduct themselves when present (with certain limitations).
You guys are busy doing all kinds of mental gymnastics in order to OC in a place that has expressly requested that you not do so...there's no way you are going to justify this kind of disregard for property belonging to others.
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
That flies in the face of property rights and the constitution.
Jeff Hayes
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Dave_pro2a
Regular Member
That's communistic. Welcome to the new Amerika.
kparker
Regular Member
Oh good grief. Of course there's a few ninnies here, like there is anywhere, but don't tar the rest of us, please.
Freedom1Man
Regular Member
What would you have done if the barista had asked you to leave?
Freedom1Man
Regular Member
If a business has as license, then it has no rights. The licensed business cannot exist without the state's permission. Part of that means that he state can shut one down for almost any reason because a licensed activity is a privileged activity.
OC for ME
Regular Member
The CEO of Starbucks seems to disagree with you on their policy.
No OC or CC.
Starbucks don't want you or your gun.
He don't want his employees "getting all up in your gril" and telling you to take your gun and hit the bricks. The banning part.
Semantics? Yes. Is the CEO crystal clear on his "request" for no guns in his stores? Well, there seems to be some debate on this subject.
We all know that guns are not welcome in Starbucks. Go into their store with a gun, you don't give a rip about his private property right, while at the same time demanding that he give a rip about your gun right.....nice.
Maverick9
Regular Member
So the OP's post was designed to:
1. Gloat at his special status?
2. Whine about the patron?
3. Inform everyone he was special?
4. Create the impression that he was a uniformed law enforcement officer (maybe not, if you read closely)?
5. Go 'in uniform' in opposition to the company's desires (though not a hard rule)?
6. All of the above?
Or support firearms rights but not really explaining to the patron that he was a 2A supporter, not an LEO. I really can't tell.
1. Gloat at his special status?
2. Whine about the patron?
3. Inform everyone he was special?
4. Create the impression that he was a uniformed law enforcement officer (maybe not, if you read closely)?
5. Go 'in uniform' in opposition to the company's desires (though not a hard rule)?
6. All of the above?
Or support firearms rights but not really explaining to the patron that he was a 2A supporter, not an LEO. I really can't tell.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
That flies in the face of property rights and the constitution.
Primus
Regular Member
How about it was designed to relay an open carry experience he had? Maybe it was to show that even in the face of an anti patron THAT Starbucks (or the worker that day) were perfectly fine with him ocing there.
Relax. The dude was on his way to work and wanted a coffee. He was ocing and got hassled by a fellow citizen. The uniform he was wearing had nothing to do with it.
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Freedom1Man
Regular Member
If a, licensed corporation type, business cannot exist without the government permission then it cannot really ever own property.
If it is a private citizen running a business, not a corporation, then I would agree with you.
I do not recognize corporations as having rights.
Fuller Malarkey
Regular Member
Speaking of relax.......your jurisdiction ends at the at the edge of the mall parking lot, doesn't it?
As you were.
Oh. And "Psssst"..........word has it the scofflaws at Barnes and Noble are smoking just outside the back door again. We're counting on you to protect us. Vaya con Dios, Mall Warrior.
Primus
Regular Member
Lol No I work at a toll booth remember. So go ahead try getting through me without paying your 75 cents!!
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WalkingWolf
Regular Member
So what we have learned is Primus only supports OC by uniformed LEOs and uniformed security guards. If it was anybody else, IMO, he would tell them to conceal.
DocWalker
Regular Member
I guess it boils down to the difference between "request" and "we are not banning and will serve you". I request is just that a request and not a dictate on OC. You can jump to a conclusion if you want but the way that Starbucks put it out their you are still welcome to do buisness with them while you OC....PER THE LAW.