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    US Senate Candidate Matt Bevin - Huge Gun Rights Advocate

    Matt Bevin... full auto, suppressed, rocking the 50 BMG, etc.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLqx3I3VXhw

    Not subtle in his support of the right to keep and bear arms. I like that in a candidate.

    If you're interested in his other political views, you can check him out at his website, http://www.MattBevin.com. You can also get a good feel for what he believes and why he's running for US Senate by clicking on the campaign's other YouTube videos.

    Disclaimer: I've been renting tables at Kentucky gun shows and volunteering my time and money to promote Matt Bevin as our next US Senator, and I've been getting a very good response. Kentuckians are very happy to hear that there is a GOOD candidate in that race. I was out in the nasty weather last night to attend a Bluegrass Sportsman's League meeting where Matt Bevin spoke. It was a small crowd as not many wanted to brave an ice storm, but Matt was well received.
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    I like Bevin from all I've read about him and his graduating from Washington & Lee in Lex VA. You have to admire a school that still honors and enforces Robt E Lee's motto of 'a gentleman will not lie, cheat or steal'. Have observed that very good characteristic in just about all of the undergraduates that I've met from there. (Current law school students not so much).

    Glad to hear from people closer to Matt in KY that he's a good guy - HAS to be an improvement over the results the country has been getting from the weasel of McConnell. This summer it really made me mad hearing radio spots in Eastern KY about 'how McConnell has been fightin' so hard against Obamacare'.

    Glad Bevin stepped in to the race - I want to say at the same time as he got the endorsement from Jim DeMint and the Senate Conservative Fund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    he got the endorsement from Jim DeMint and the Senate Conservative Fund.
    The Senate Conservatives Fund was a big early endorsement, as were Gun Owners of America and the Madison Project. FreedomWorks just signed on and is a big endorsement as well.

    But mostly, Matt seems to be earning the only endorsement that really counts... that of the Kentucky voters. When people talk with Matt, they realize that he's the real deal, and not another weasel career politician. He has my support because he represents and articulates my values, and I believe that he's running for all of the reasons that I would if I could. Thankfully, he can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    I like Bevin from all I've read about him and his graduating from Washington & Lee in Lex VA. You have to admire a school that still honors and enforces Robt E Lee's motto of 'a gentleman will not lie, cheat or steal'. Have observed that very good characteristic in just about all of the undergraduates that I've met from there. (Current law school students not so much).

    Glad to hear from people closer to Matt in KY that he's a good guy - HAS to be an improvement over the results the country has been getting from the weasel of McConnell. This summer it really made me mad hearing radio spots in Eastern KY about 'how McConnell has been fightin' so hard against Obamacare'.

    Glad Bevin stepped in to the race - I want to say at the same time as he got the endorsement from Jim DeMint and the Senate Conservative Fund.
    The only difference between Bevin, and McConnell, is that Bevin is less of a ***** than McConnell, but they're still two sides of the same party coin, Bevin is just 'less evil' than McConnell, at least at the surface, scratch a conservative, and every time you'll get a religious zealot under the skin.

    The only 'good' thing about Bevin, is that he's considerably more 'pro-gun' than McConnell, and unlike McConnel, may keep his promise to repeal the USAPATRIOT act.

    That is where the differences between them cease. They both define themselves as "Conservative Republican", they both advocate for the state recognition of opposite-sex marriage, while hiding behind religious beliefs as a reason why they want the Government to enforce 'straight' marriages, but have the Government enforce the bans/laws against Same-Sex Marriage. Because ya know, they wanna fight for a smaller government, and fight for less taxes, and a bigger military, and will fight to force government to recognize our gun rights, and to a lesser extent our other rights, but we cant have the f@gs getting married! NOPE! That'll lead to animals f*cking humans in the streets in front of our children, we NEED the Government to only recognize ONE form of marriage, which happens to be the one WE LIKE.

    I'm willing to bet that if I sent Bevin a heart-felt letter, asking him to please vote on a bill to repeal the unconstitutional ban on Same-sex marriage, based on the principles laid out in the Federal, and State Constitutions, that he'll say the exact same sh*t that ***** McConnell said; "Due to my religious beliefs, I cannot support, or vote in favor of any law or amendment recognizing an immoral, sinful practice between ******". Or, probably along the same lines as McConnell. I should bring McConnell's letter to an OC meet, I'm sure the republicans on this board would LOVE to have it, probably even mount it in a solid gold picture frame, adorned with symbols of Christ.

    https://mattbevin.com/issue/life-and-marriage/

    Security and National Defense speaking;
    https://mattbevin.com/issue/155/
    Politicians often present us with the false choice between protecting our civil liberties and building a strong national defense. There is no reason we can’t rigorously fight terrorism and other national security threats without violating the constitutional protections of our civil liberties. The news of the NSA’s extensive wiretapping program is just the latest example that our government has gone too far.

    Matt believes we have the right to defend our country and our allies when our security and freedom are being threatened, but we cannot sacrifice our constitutional principles in the process. To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, if we trample on our liberty in the name of security, we will have neither liberty nor security. Matt will fight to protect our constitutional freedoms, including rolling back the Patriot Act and limiting the government’s ability to engage in unconstitutional surveillance of American citizens.
    Really now, so, he'll fight for the standing Armies, and Marines to be disbanded, because I don't remember there being anything in the constitutional [originally] that said "Congress shall make certain a standing military is actively ready and well funded more-so than any other branch of government could ever hope for, and to be used at the discretion of a select senatorial committee, and the President." I'm glad to know he'll continue this stupid "War on Terror" that dumbcrap Bush Jr started, because we REALLY need to spend MORE MONEY fighting terrorism in foreign countries, killing people whose families is going to just hate us EVEN MORE, and not changing a single thing in the world, except to make people hate us EVEN MORE. Yep, let's vote this guy in, because we know Obama, and Bush Jr type politicians really need more supporters to send our troops in to die for UTTERLY USELESS reasons.

    https://mattbevin.com/issue/term-limits/
    Term Limits

    Our founding fathers envisioned a Congress, comprised of citizen legislators that would be accountable to the American people. Today, we have the opposite: Elite politicians in Washington who have lost touch with the people they are supposed to represent. Matt supports imposing term limits on senators and representatives to return political power to the American people – where it belongs.

    If elected to the U.S. Senate, Matt will not serve more than two terms.
    I call BS. I remember McConnell's first campaign ad, saying he would only serve two terms. I've seen Democrats, and Republicans say the same thing, but some reason, they get in office and they stay there for twenty years.

    Let's make a campaign promise to impose term limits, and get rid of the D.C. elitists! But let's not illustrate how, or why, or when, we should proceed doing so, because the less we emphasis something, the less we have to defend flip-flopping over pointless campaign promises that every Democrat, and every Republican, and every Independent, and Every Whig, and Federalist, and Democratic-Republican, and Tea Party, and Freedom Party person has made and promised ever since the beginning of Party politics in the U.S. But it's okay, because THIS candidate is different!

    https://mattbevin.com/issue/energy/
    Energy

    Our country is blessed with an abundance of natural resources. Matt believes we can lower the cost of energy, decrease our dependence on foreign oil, and create badly needed jobs by exploring and developing these resources. At the same time, we must also defeat President Obama’s War on Coal and his efforts to impose costly energy regulations on job creators across America.

    Matt will be a vocal supporter of Kentucky’s coal industry and will adamantly oppose efforts – like the cap-and-trade tax – to increase the cost of energy in this country. He will be a leading advocate against the EPA’s burdensome regulations that are killing Kentucky jobs and he will fight to repeal ethanol and renewable fuels mandates that drive up the cost of energy. Matt will also work to reform our judicial review process that holds up coal production and nuclear power plants in frivolous lawsuits and bureaucratic red tape.
    Hmm, a Republican who wants to limit the power of an Agency that was signed into effect, and allowed to happen BY A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT! Seems a bit Ironic that republicans would want to harm an agency, in a sense created by a former Republican president.

    Okay so, lemme get this straight. Coal burning power plants which are friggen dirty as sh*t [Don't tell me otherwise, I lived within half a mile of one, I got REAL tired of having bronchitis and other asthma-like problems, that somehow ceased to happen to me when I moved far away from coal plants.]; So, has any Republicans ever actually burned coal in a furnace, or a coal-burning stove? Oh, I forgot, Republican [and Democrat] politicians don't live the same lives we normal people do, they couldn't tell you the price of friggen milk without three advisers giving them advice!. Coal is DIRTY. It burns dirty. It heats dirty. It releases noxious fumes when burned, especially at very high temps. The smoke from burning coal is not clean, and can aggravate asthma symptoms and cause lung problems in children, and adults. Coal miners got black lung from mining coal and breathing coal dust, it's much much worse when it's burned. EPA is a craptastic gov't agency, I know that, I admit that, just like every other government agency, it's just as bad as the FBI, CIA, NHTSB, USDA, FDA, etc. But you don't see anything on his page about him wanting to limit, or get rid of, the FBI, CIA, USDA, FDA, DHS, TSA, or Federal reserve, even though they make a LARGER impact on Americans than the EPA.

    Kentucky has a lot of natural resources. We have lots of natural gas deposits, we have lots of coal, we have lots of wind, lots of sun, lots of water, and I even hear it rumored by a friend in the USGS that Kentucky has a [albeit small] deposit of Uranium near Paducah. What we don't have, is a lot of Oil, very very small deposits, if any left. I tell ya what, Bevin, you wanna keep the US, and Kentucky's dependance on foreign oil, endorse legislation for Nuclear power plants to be built. two nuke plants could power much of Kentucky's residents at a super cheap price. But no, he wouldn't do that, because Nuclear power would cut into the profits of his big coal company supporters! Will probably espouse the same tired rhetoric that Nuclear power is dangerous, and dirty, and everyone living near a nuke plant will be irradiated and have cancer everywhere and all over the place, and their children will be mutants! :eye-rolls:.

    The EPA, Federal, and State regulations are the only thing keeping Coal Companies, and dirty industries from dumping their used sh*t into rivers, and back country valleys, or storing chemicals underground. And anyone who touts that Businesses are gonna self-regulate themselves and keep themselves in line with no federal/state regulations and a program/agency to provide oversight, are really, really, really blind to the real f**king world, and how people think, act, and do outside of this political fantasy bubble that both parties have themselves in, where socialists can do no wrong in a Democrat's mind, and Industrial and coal businesses can do no wrong in the mind of a Republican.

    https://mattbevin.com/issue/judicial-nominees/
    Judicial Nominees

    Regardless of which party nominates a judge for the federal bench, Matt pledges to vote against any judicial nominee who will not interpret the Constitution as originally conceived by our Founders.
    Ah, that's good to know. But if there is a judge nominated by the Democrats, he may or may not look away when his Republican critter-friends scour the Democrat candidate with a steel-wire brush, while looking at his hands while his GOP friends b*tch and whine when the Democrats do the exact same thing to Republican picked candidates.

    Hey Bevin, here's an idea that I know you, and every other politician, regardless of party membership, will never consider! Picking, and choosing candidates who ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH EITHER PARTY! OMG! WOW! THAT'D NEVER WORK WITH OUR TWO-PARTY-ONLY STATE! Typical young person thinking outside the box!

    He pledges to vote for nominees who will only interpret the Constitution as it was originally conceived by the Founder? So, he'll vote for nominees who have a magic device that lets them travel back hundreds of years, to read the minds of the Founders, and travel back to the present to law down a ruling that is unbiasedly based on what the original founding fathers thought the Constitution should be seen as? Damn, how come we don't have more of those judges with such devices laying around?! We could have used them back during our civil war, and the Bush era right-infringing laws, and the Clinton and Obama Screw-ups, and the Reagan big-government ordeal, and Nixon and Johnson's Vietnam F**k-up, and WWI, WWII, Mexican wars, Indian wars, trail of tears, etc etc etc.

    No one single person in this entire world knows exactly how the Founding fathers meant to interpret the Constitution. We the People can only glean from existing documents which contains simple glimpses into the minds of the founding document creators and signatories. Even the most Conservative [or Liberal] judges interpret the Constitution based on what they know, read, and understand, and what their personal opinion and beliefs are of the subject matter. Humans are imperfect beings, we have a bias in every context and in over format of consciousness, and it will make itself felt in everything we say and do.

    https://mattbevin.com/issue/spending/
    Spending

    Our government doesn’t have a revenue problem. It has a spending addiction. Sadly, this has been a bipartisan disease. Over the past decade, federal spending has ballooned at the hands of both Democrats and Republicans. This spending addiction has pushed our debt to nearly $17 trillion and our government to the precipice of a potential debt crisis.

    It is clear we can’t trust Congress to follow through on its promise to cut spending “next year” or “next month.” It’s time for taxpayers to hold our politicians accountable. That’s why Matt supports passing a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution that will force Congress to balance the budget every year and to keep spending at or below historical spending levels.

    Matt will also refuse to vote for a debt limit increase unless we make substantial spending cuts and reforms. This would include having a plan agreed upon by the President and the US Congress that balances the budget in 10 years or less.
    Same crap, different politician. I've heard it from every candidate, nominee, and politican in my life, and have NEVER seen any of them come remotely close to fulfilling a tenth of what they promised in regards to budgetting. WHY in the HELL would it be ANY DIFFERENT with Bevin?

    Cut spending, we have a spending addiction, let's cut spending, lets also cut taxes! Let's build a strong national defense! and fight a war on terrorism, and a war on drugs! HOW THE FRICK ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THIS STUFF?! Oh, lets just get rid of Social Security! that'll cure ALL of our problems

    Hey Bevin, and any other candidate out there, here's a big hint from a dumbsh*t Kentuckian... CUT THE MILITARY SPENDING! Defund the Veterans Affairs hospitals! "But the VA has changed! our military veterans no longer have free healthcare!" Bullsh-t! I have Veteran family, friends, and lovers. They STILL get 100% free healthcare from the VA no matter if its a lover who makes 67k$ a year, or if its an uncle who lives on welfare. You Republicans hate the idea of free healthcare, but won't do crap when it comes to free healthcare for our vets! Cut and get rid of the VA, Cut military and defense spending by half, Cut the navy budget by half, don't build those three planned new carriers, we have 7 friggen super carriers, a dozen escort carriers, half a dozen amphibious assault carriers, loads of frigates, destroyers, cruisers, and maritime coastal defense ships. We could defend our actual borders with two Carrier Battle groups and still be over powered compared to our competition! We'd be the only country in the world with a multi-trillion dollar surplus!
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    Since I'm a roll to destroy the facade of "Voter approved Bevin" show me the Democratic candidates so I can bring down, and destroy their faux integrity too!

    Feed me more beloved candidates so that I may strip down their fake claims and render them just another 'less evil' candidate!

    Muahahahahaha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Since I'm a roll to destroy the facade of "Voter approved Bevin" show me the Democratic candidates so I can bring down, and destroy their faux integrity too!
    So who do you support? Are you happy with McConnell?


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    I'll take coal any day of the week over nuclear.

    Nuclear is not "clean" energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Since I'm a roll to destroy the facade of "Voter approved Bevin" show me the Democratic candidates so I can bring down, and destroy their faux integrity too!

    Feed me more beloved candidates so that I may strip down their fake claims and render them just another 'less evil' candidate!

    Muahahahahaha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnspecial View Post
    Allison Lundergan Grimes
    Challenge accepted.
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    I ran out of beer last night, so I have to do this sober. Bemusingly, Grimes doesn't have as wide of a range of 'issues' on her website, so I can only criticize, b*tch, and moan at what is presented on her page, with a little other digging around. When I made my rant against Bevin, it was based solely on his website, and from what I've seen Liberty4Ever post on his personal facebook page.
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    Alison Lundergan Grimes has been in office since 2012.

    http://alisonforkentucky.com/news/

    Key things to point out in her 'news feed'; 1. She's really obsessed with attacking other people and candidates on the issue of 'jobs', and 'employment equality'. 2. She's really obsessed with attacking Mitch in every other articles. 3. She has only one article in her news feed in regards to guns, and that's her old invitation to Mitch McConnell to join her at a gun range. Nothing else mentioned or noticed in regards to guns. 4. She talks a lot about gender equality, but only mentions female equality, making no mention whatsoever to Male, or Intersexed gender's own inequality faced in work places and housing. Appearently the only thing she cares about is educating women, and making sure women are viewed as nothing less than Goddesses.

    Now, to tackle her Issues.

    EXPANDING ACCESS TO QUALITY EDUCATION: Alison will also work with families, educators and schools to ensure our children have access to quality education and are equipped with the tools and resources necessary to succeed. Education is the passport out of poverty, and every child has the right to a quality education. A good education is an economic necessity and should not be a luxury. Education is the gateway to good-paying jobs, economic growth and a strong middle class. Mitch McConnell negotiated a Washington budget deal that caused 1,100 Kentucky children to lose access to early childhood education[3] and cut an estimated $31.8 million from Kentucky schools[4]. He also opposed legislation to hire and preserve jobs for teachers[5] and blocked legislation to preserve low interest rates for students[6].
    Well, hello attack ad! Nice to see that at least half of her issue responses are attacking someone she see's as her sole competition. I don't see anything in your voting record that indicates you've done anything along the lines of helping "families, educators and schools to ensure our children have access to quality education...", in fact, news articles available online point that the last time you visited a school, or a Health and Human Services department, or School board, or families, was on your campaign trail to get elected to Secretary of State! But hey, nice to know you still care about those of us who didn't get a free ride to Friggen Rhodes College, and American University, because of who your family knew.

    PROTECTING VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: As Secretary of State, Alison championed the first-ever address confidentiality program for victims of domestic violence to ensure their safety and security are not compromised when they vote. In the Senate, Alison will continue to be a voice for victims of domestic violence. According to the Kentucky Cabinet for Health and Family Services, “a woman is assaulted every 15 seconds”[7] and one in six women in the U.S. will be victims of domestic violence over the course of her lifetime[8] – troubling statistics that must be addressed.

    Despite political attempts to disguise his real record, Mitch McConnell has repeatedly opposed the Violence Against Women Act[9] and even blocked an effort to vote on the bill to protect women[10].
    Oh, so far two for two on the attack ad within an issue response! Nice going gurl! Good for you, you championed something that has already been in place, in varying degrees, since the 90s, do you want a f**king cookie?

    Wow, women really have it tough in the U.S., every 15 seconds eh? Hmm, lesse here... Oh my goodness, exactly 967,680 women are assaulted every 7-days in the US?! Christ man, we gotta do something about that! averaging out about 3.5 weeks a month [I can never remember if its four or three], that means that in a month there will have been 3,386,880 women assaulted in the US! That's just a million people shy of filling Kentucky's population. And Holy sheet! 40,642,560 women are assaulted EVERY YEAR in the U.S.?! My word! that comes to 9.8% of the U.S. total population! The United States is an EXTREMELY violent place if 40 million women are getting assaulted every year, and no one really knows about it.

    WHERE DO THESE PEOPLE GET THESE FRIGGEN STATISTICS?!

    So, when I run for a political office, I could find a off-the-wall report that said every minute a gay person is assaulted in the U.S.! but don't calculate the numbers or anything, because then you'd know I'm just bullsh*tting you!

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    I have to drive my friend to work, and take care of some errands and stuff, I'll finish this later today, sorry for the tease!

    Also, I hate her military apologetism-thing, yea, let's encourage people to hire veterans over anyone else, because someone who voluntarily joins a job profession, trained to kill people in really effective ways, goes to a foreign country and kills its residents, and gets paid outstanding bonuses and gets free life-time healthcare for doing it, REALLY is a great choice for a job, instead of say, someone who has a few years doing what the job requirements are! Let's hire trained killers over people who needs the job more!
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    90% of politicians are corrupt. The remaining 10% will become corrupt in time. JMO

    I'm fairly conservative on most issues and not so on others. However I've lost faith in the republican party and would never support the Dems so I'm now Independent.

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    So what are the grass root 2A activist voters going to do in KY this year? Tell me how corrupt all of the Pols are? How much they cheat and steal and lie? You don't need to be born in the 20th century to know human nature.

    Do you guys support anyone on the ballot that has integrity or honor?
    Looks like to Pols in KY have got done a good job on the sheeple of KY - you guys are depressed you just going to be loserman hangdogs sittin' on the wornout couch in KY bitchin' about the weather and how unfair life is ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    So what are the grass root 2A activist voters going to do in KY this year? Tell me how corrupt all of the Pols are? How much they cheat and steal and lie? You don't need to be born in the 20th century to know human nature.

    Do you guys support anyone on the ballot that has integrity or honor?
    Looks like to Pols in KY have got done a good job on the sheeple of KY - you guys are depressed you just going to be loserman hangdogs sittin' on the wornout couch in KY bitchin' about the weather and how unfair life is ...
    Hey why don't you knock off the attitude and go back to your anti-gun state's forum if you're gonna go around insulting people of another state.

    What's sad is that I can't tell if the "pols" he's referring to are either Polish people, Police, or Pollsters who work at voting booths.

    I dunno about the others, but I do not support any candidate on any available ballot in the odd, or even election cycles, because none of them are worthy of my vote, and all of them are just as bad as the other candidate(s). Bevin is just as bad as McConnell, Rand is just as bad as Grimes, so on and so forth. And until there is a candidate on the ballot that genuinely thinks for themselves without consulting some BS 2,000 year old book, or borrows from the Communist manifesto on how they should help socialize the state, then I'm going to work adamantly against any candidate I come across, and try to expose them for the corrupt expert Bull****ers that they are, no matter how many Libertarians, Republicans, or Democrats say that Candidate C is better than Candidate A & B, because of this or that. Libertarians are just as self-righteously ignorant about real problems and real-world issues as their Democrat, and Republican counter-parts.

    So no, at least where I'm concerned, I support no one on the ballot that has "integrity or honor".

    And in case you Texans forgot, you ARE apart of the United States of America, where we ALL have fundamental, inherent, inalienable rights. Such as, but not limited to, our right to B*tch and moan about anything we darn well please, any time we so wish it, and pass around how unfair life is to us or how fair life is to our bank accounts. If you'd like to see a restriction on what your adversaries can, or cannot say, do, or feel, then Texas is more than welcome to remove itself from the U.S., and go join up with Columbia, Sudan, Cambodia, or Iran. Go ahead, trust me, the rest of the U.S. ain't gonna miss y'all one bit at all. You've been sitting on your cow hide couches for the last two hundred-something years, wining about how you're gonna leave the Union. Well, why don't you?! Oh, right, because Texas gets an asinine amount of Federal funding, and subsidies, and relief grants, if Texas went out, you'd be bankrupt within a year.

    Friggen out-of-state people coming to our sub-forum and b*tching at our people for expressing opinions, and throwing around insults and that stupid holier than thou attitude that permeate the existence of the people who inhabit states that got their butts whipped in the Civil War.

    There's my rant of the day, I'm going to take a nap now.
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    While I am leaning toward voting against McConnell, with all due respect to Mr. Bevin, posing at a range shooting various weapons doesn't impress me.

    Can anyone tell me what Mr. Bevin has done, prior to deciding to run for office, that would promote the 2nd Amendment?

    Not attempting to start a war, just asking a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Hey why don't you knock off the attitude and go back to your anti-gun state's forum if you're gonna go around insulting people of another state.

    What's sad is that I can't tell if the "pols" he's referring to are either Polish people, Police, or Pollsters who work at voting booths.

    I dunno about the others, but I do not support any candidate on any available ballot in the odd, or even election cycles, because none of them are worthy of my vote, and all of them are just as bad as the other candidate(s). Bevin is just as bad as McConnell, Rand is just as bad as Grimes, so on and so forth. And until there is a candidate on the ballot that genuinely thinks for themselves without consulting some BS 2,000 year old book, or borrows from the Communist manifesto on how they should help socialize the state, then I'm going to work adamantly against any candidate I come across, and try to expose them for the corrupt expert Bull****ers that they are, no matter how many Libertarians, Republicans, or Democrats say that Candidate C is better than Candidate A & B, because of this or that. Libertarians are just as self-righteously ignorant about real problems and real-world issues as their Democrat, and Republican counter-parts.

    So no, at least where I'm concerned, I support no one on the ballot that has "integrity or honor".

    And in case you Texans forgot, you ARE apart of the United States of America, where we ALL have fundamental, inherent, inalienable rights. Such as, but not limited to, our right to B*tch and moan about anything we darn well please, any time we so wish it, and pass around how unfair life is to us or how fair life is to our bank accounts. If you'd like to see a restriction on what your adversaries can, or cannot say, do, or feel, then Texas is more than welcome to remove itself from the U.S., and go join up with Columbia, Sudan, Cambodia, or Iran. Go ahead, trust me, the rest of the U.S. ain't gonna miss y'all one bit at all. You've been sitting on your cow hide couches for the last two hundred-something years, wining about how you're gonna leave the Union. Well, why don't you?! Oh, right, because Texas gets an asinine amount of Federal funding, and subsidies, and relief grants, if Texas went out, you'd be bankrupt within a year.

    Friggen out-of-state people coming to our sub-forum and b*tching at our people for expressing opinions, and throwing around insults and that stupid holier than thou attitude that permeate the existence of the people who inhabit states that got their butts whipped in the Civil War.

    There's my rant of the day, I'm going to take a nap now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    I dunno about the others, but I do not support any candidate on any available ballot in the odd, or even election cycles, because none of them are worthy of my vote, and all of them are just as bad as the other candidate(s). Bevin is just as bad as McConnell, Rand is just as bad as Grimes, so on and so forth.
    Took some reading but I got the answer to my question on this one.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrOverlay View Post
    While I am leaning toward voting against McConnell, with all due respect to Mr. Bevin, posing at a range shooting various weapons doesn't impress me.

    Can anyone tell me what Mr. Bevin has done, prior to deciding to run for office, that would promote the 2nd Amendment?

    Not attempting to start a war, just asking a question.
    This was my question too. Sitting over here in Texas, got $ I think can be better sent to candidates that might make more of a difference. Want to hear from local voters what do they think about the conservative nature of the individuals - not just the political garbage you hear through the media, consultants, candidates lying this way or that.

    Want to say I remember a phrase my great-grandparents used - GTT - gone to texas. Still rings true. My old family comes from FL, TN and MS and was in the War against Northern Aggression. Texas is a great state to make money, but I'm thinking about how beautiful parts of Eastern TN and KY; WV and ROVA and NC are - when I start to diversify my time and locate places to hang out, am starting to escalate my interest in what type of attitude the people in those areas embody for their well being. Are they content with 'the way things are' or 'are they willing to do something about it'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Friggen out-of-state people coming to our sub-forum and b*tching at our people for expressing opinions, and throwing around insults and that stupid holier than thou attitude that permeate the existence of the people who inhabit states that got their butts whipped in the Civil War.
    This is good info too. When I see a lot of these type of general attitudes in certain areas where I travel, I know that it could be a good spot to look to buy land - it has to be cheap because there probably is not much $ chasing it - if the locals are not engaged with changing things, being dynamic and moving forward with economic development, you can make a lot of money in ….Texas…..where land is going for $10,000 an undeveloped acre, you can buy it in…..KY…. for $500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    Took some reading but I got the answer to my question on this one.

    This was my question too. Sitting over here in Texas, got $ I think can be better sent to candidates that might make more of a difference. Want to hear from local voters what do they think about the conservative nature of the individuals - not just the political garbage you hear through the media, consultants, candidates lying this way or that.

    Want to say I remember a phrase my great-grandparents used - GTT - gone to texas. Still rings true. My old family comes from FL, TN and MS and was in the War against Northern Aggression. Texas is a great state to make money, but I'm thinking about how beautiful parts of Eastern TN and KY; WV and ROVA and NC are - when I start to diversify my time and locate places to hang out, am starting to escalate my interest in what type of attitude the people in those areas embody for their well being. Are they content with 'the way things are' or 'are they willing to do something about it'.
    Kentucky has just as many apethetic, content voters as any other state, which happens to be a majority of the population. People will say "We need change!" "We need someone who can turn things around" "I'm tired of the same old crap from my party" "Enough is enough" - But none of them will actually do anything to try to make a difference, no matter how large or small, in the way things are done locally, and nationally, because it'd involve them having to make an effort, and put some free time into the attempt. Now that I think about it, that explains the vast majority of voters, and non-voters in every state in the Union!

    If the people should ever be faced with the same Casus Belli that our Founding Fathers, and Revolutionary war patriots faced and clung to, I'd have to say that maybe, just maybe, 1/64th of the U.S. population would take up arms, or make meaningful action in support of, such a cause, foreign or domestic. Face it, Americans are idiots, and the majority of us cannot be trusted to vote responsibly, or to fight to secure one iota of 'freedoms' that people two or three hundred years ago, would have given everything to achieve for SOMEONE ELSE! So yea, people in Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, Whatever-the-frick ROVA is, and NC, are "content with 'the way things are".

    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    This is good info too. When I see a lot of these type of general attitudes in certain areas where I travel, I know that it could be a good spot to look to buy land - it has to be cheap because there probably is not much $ chasing it - if the locals are not engaged with changing things, being dynamic and moving forward with economic development, you can make a lot of money in ….Texas…..where land is going for $10,000 an undeveloped acre, you can buy it in…..KY…. for $500.
    Average price per acre in some rural areas around my area can get as low as 1200$ per acre, I have not once in my lifetime seen an acre sell for 500$. Also, nice way to land in an economic-centered insult. Apparently Kentucky is inferior to Texas because our land is cheaper [in most cases]. Well, how about this, when you guys have constitutional Open Carry, like what we have, and a state pre-emption, like we have, and won't get arrested for simply showing a loading pistol outside of your jacket, THEN you can dish out insults, bro. Till then, go pound sand in your pitiful state's forum, brah.
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    Check Out Republican United States Senate Candidate Shawna Sterling

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    Since I'm a roll to destroy the facade of "Voter approved Bevin" show me the Democratic candidates so I can bring down, and destroy their faux integrity too!

    Feed me more beloved candidates so that I may strip down their fake claims and render them just another 'less evil' candidate!

    Muahahahahaha!
    Drakez07, You are from Bath County! Wow, so am I and so is the next United States Senate Candidate I want you to critique Here is her website: http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnaSterling View Post
    Drakez07, You are from Bath County! Wow, so am I and so is the next United States Senate Candidate I want you to critique Here is her website: http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/
    Plugging for yourself eh? Challenge accepted! And i have beer this time, so no crying foul~~~
    I'll only critique you based on what is on your website's "issues" portion.
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    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/budget.html
    I agree with Rand Paul in that spending needs to be cut and it needs to happen very quickly. No Child Left Behind was passed over 11 years ago and still we have not closed the education gaps, after billions of dollars spent. Programs with money wasted and no results should be programs de-funded. I would take Education out of the federal government's hands because their education agenda does not represent the agenda of the American people and I would place the responsibility for educating our children in the hands of the state, the community, the neighborhood, and the family units. I would get STEM education and agricultural curriculum available to schools, and families and encourage and support families who chose to stay at home with their kids and home school. The federal government dropped the ball with education, and they don't deserve to have that responsibility anymore, in my opinion.
    Firstly, in regards to the italicized portion of the quote; How I mine for grammar lolololol. Big U.K. education, still can't use a thesaurus, or, I dunno, run a page by a English professor or English Major. It's okay, I wouldn't expect any candidate to actually care about taking pride in themselves, or their 'education'.

    Hmm, take Education from the Federal Government, and place it in the bonds of State Government! SURE! Why not. Because as we all know well, State governments are safer, and more readily able to be changed by the populace, than the Federal government. [Sarcasm.] So, put education in the hands of the communities, neighborhoods, and family units, eh? I suppose you never heard of, or been to a County, or City school board, right? They sorta have this thing, where elected school board officials make big decisions in regards to funding local schools, and what will or will not be taught in the school district, as well as handle reviews and audits of the school system as is. Now, I personally have not been to a public school before, I was home schooled up to mid-'junior high', where I transferred to a private school that had a really good J/ROTC program, which I really loved; Point being, all that I know of the school board, is what I've seen in person when I considered running for a position within, to try and beat out my IDIOT neighbor who moved in from California, and literally considers his one-cow fenced in back yard to be a 'farm'. Yea, one of THOSE people.

    So, Agricultural curriculum is not already in our school system? Hmm, I suppose the 4H club in every county school district is just an imaginary object, which school-aged kids happen to get into at their own decisions, or the decisions of the family.

    Honestly, the Federal Government didn't drop the ball on the topic of Education. STATES dropped the ball, County and local school boards dropped the ball. Do you seriously think the US is barely even in the top 20, out of 168 or so countries, because the Federal government just said "Screw it, kids can teach themselves."

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/...liberties.html
    I agree with Rand Paul 100%. What we are going through right now in our day in time with our government would have been a walk in the park for our founding fathers and without flinching they would have held all accountable who are tying to destroy our Constitution right now. If we want to know what it will take to fight back and preserve our freedom, then all we have to do is look at the long list of injustices, injuries, and usurpations our founding fathers faced as is recorded in the Declaration of Independence. It is almost as if our enemies are moving down that list using it as a guideline on how to enslave us. We must look at that list again and realize that our forefathers found a way to break free and that way is our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, our Civil Liberties not just for the King, or Queen or wealthy elite but for all United States citizens who take the oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.
    Oh, okay then, well, I guess those of us United States citizens who DIDN'T JOIN THE MILITARY, BECAME COPS, or GOT ELECTED TO OFFICE are just Sh*t outta luck when it comes to civil liberties, since freedom only applies to people who took an oath of affirmation to protect and defend the Constitution. Last time I checked, no one had to take such an oath when they popped out of a womb, before they could be a citizen. Rights and freedoms are inherent, and inalienable. No citizen has to take an oath of office, or affirm their defense of any document, to enjoy the fullest extent of the freedoms, and rights outlined, and not specifically mentioned in, the supreme law of the land. But, I suppose that's just another Republican ideal, isn't it, suck-up to the military, cops, and other politicians, but toss salt at us lowly civilians.

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/debt--spending.html
    Absolutely agree that we need to immediately cut the deficit, and continue to do it until we get back on track. I haven't seen the plan he's introduced yet, to balance the federal budget in 5 years. I would need to see that to get a better understanding of the details but I do agree with the overall agenda.
    Who's plan? What are you even talking about here? You start off with an incomplete sentence, and make it so vague that an English teacher would pull each of their eye brow hairs out, by just reading your statement! Okay, so you agree that we should cut the deficit. That's fine and dandy. HOW are you planning on accomplishing this feat of strength? Are you going to raise taxes? Will you cut our asinine Defense budget? And which of your political rivals are you referring to, whom has a '5 year plan'? I guess we the voters are too stupid, and insignificant to get a straight answer from the great Goddess herself, she'll probably send one of her aides to come blind us with amazingly useless facts and talk for twenty minutes about everything, and anything under the sun, EXCEPT 'Debt & Spending'.

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/education.html
    I agree with Rand Paul. No one can deny the statistics that show all the money being put into the education budget is not getting positive results as reflected in standardized test scores. Our kids can't compete with their international peers and it's getting progressively worse with each year.
    What statistics? Whom gave out these statistics? Why do you make incomplete sentences, and use vague wording in your campaign comments? You assume that voters automatically know what exactly you're talking about, and know precisely the exact statistics and sources you use and gleaned information from! But, it's okay, because you agree with Rand Paul on a lot of your issues. As if that's supposed to say "Hey! Look at me! I agree with Ran Paul, so I don't have to put any effort into my own campaign, and making known my side of the equation, or what my solutions are! Yay me! I get a cookie for being just like every other Libertarian-esqe Republican.

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/energy.html
    I agree with Rand Paul. I would add that it almost looks like they are tying to get Americans so economically devastated that they lose their good credit ratings, lose their homes, lose their jobs, lose their hope in America, and ultimately their future ability to get financing due to their hardships, and little by little, the cities will go under, the states will go under and guess who will be there with the money to buy it all up? Not only that, but because they are trying to keep the states from using the energy each state can generate themselves, for example, Kentuckians use coal, then those resources will be saved in the ground or preserved, ready to go for the new owners of our county, down the road. The new owners who plotted for many years to run our economy into the ground so that they could plunder on its loss.
    Oh, glad to know that you agree with Rand Paul, once again. Italicized part is a run-on sentence, and makes my aspirations to one day become a English teacher melt, and makes him sad, and makes me want to cry, and makes us all die a little on the inside, and do you like how I use so many commas in a single sentence yet? The word you was looking for, in the bold portion, is 'trying'. Once more, who are 'they'?

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/...big-banks.html

    Too big of a page to quote. Although it's good to see you really have a lot in common with Rand Paul. Are you his intern? Too many logical errors. My brain needs beer and tea now.

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/...l-defense.html

    First off. Dude... I don't have no where near the college education, and courses you purportedly have, but for the love of all of humanity, go sign up for a English 097 course, it'll work WONDERS on your spelling, grammar, and sentence structure. I feel like I'm reading from a nine year old's diary. Making yourself out to be someone who agrees with Rand Paul on nearly every issue. Hey, it's okay, some people HAVE to ride on anothers coat-tails to get anywhere in life. Well, they don't have to, because they could actually TRY to be their OWN self-thinking human being. But I've learned in the 25 years I've been on this planet; Humans are social, and communal mammals. We all try to be like everyone else, because to be seen as an outcast by the majority means a troubled, and very rough life ahead.

    So, if you went to war, you would go after the criminals involved in it? Really. That's some profoundly new wartime doctrine right there. You should look into a job with the military. 20-thousand years of humans fighting amongst themselves, and we've never really thought about going after the bad guys during a war! I mean, yea the Nazis was bad during WWII, but maybe we shouldn't have let every single one of them go, maybe we should have had some sort of war-crimes tribunal, to judge the criminals and war mongers involved that started the war, and mete out a fair punishment for them!

    I take it back, I don't feel like I'm reading from a nine year old's diary. I feel like I'm reading a nine year old's show and tell paper on why we should fight wars declared on us, and maybe why we should be the aggressors from time to time.

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/health-care.html
    Update: I was asked by a reporter today, 1/28/2014, if I felt that the Affordable Care Act should be repealed. I told him, no, because I feel that American citizens should be able to have affordable health care. I want affordable health care, but parts of the Affordable Care Act are not affordable, and they are not helping Kentucky families, but are causing harm to families. We need to make sure that this law is not allowed to harm our citizens.
    Are you sure you're running on the right party platform? In case you didn't know, the Republicans REALLY HATE the ACA law. You're going to lose votes on that one. Although Kudos for saying how you really feel about the law. Oh, wait.

    I agree with Rand Paul in that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) ("Obamacare") is unconstitutional.
    Achievement get: First Campaign issue flip-flop. 10G.

    You don't think the ACA should be repealed, but feel only some of the things and parts within it should be changed. Yet, you agree that the ACA is unconstitutional. Make up your mind, are you for it, but don't really give a darn if it's unconstitutional or not? Or do you feel it's a necessary evil, because the alternative of relying on greedy companies to insure their employees, and the use of Medicare/Medicaid is inherently flawed in every sense of the term?

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/immigration.html
    I absolutely agree with Rand Paul on securing our borders. People who come here illegally are breaking our laws. We are a country whose security is dependent on laws, on our Constitution and if individuals think they can break those laws, then they are not understanding what American citizenship is all about. Why are they letting illegals in, any one of them could be an enemy who has plans to harm us. This is one of the times, I throw my hands up in the air, and say, "What the hell are you thinking!"
    You really enjoy paying lip-service to Rand's political base, don't ya? Also, People who enter the United States illegally are breaking our laws? Whoa! My mind is totally blown now, I never would have imagined anyone who did something illegal, was also breaking a law! I really have to thank you immensely for clearing that up, and shedding some light on my blissful ignorance.

    Seriously though, wow! You're really ...unique.

    Question though, with the heavy burden of cost that it takes for someone to legally immigrate into the United States, paying for a visiting visa, getting a work visa, and finding a job, earning the money and making life work for a few years so you can learn and educate yourself about a foreign country, so you can take it's citizenship tests, and blend in. Which of course can take upwards of ten years, and cost tens of thousands of dollars to accomplish, how would you handle that? Would you lower the cost in time and money to become a legal U.S. resident? Would you send the Military to the borders? What, and how would you feel about a legal U.S. resident that suddenly strapped a bomb on their chest and vaporized 12 people in Mt. Sterling's police department? They entered the U.S. legally, and took all the tests, and spent the time to educate themselves, and act and talk American, just to commit a harmful act anyway. Would you still make it harder for a Mexican family who are oppressed by their corrupt Mexican government, broke, not a peso to their name, trying to go to the El Norte, where people talk of freedom and liberty, and cross deadly deserts, and rivers, to make it through a hole in a fence? How come it was perfectly fine and dandy for -White- immigrants to illegally come to the USA on ships, and trains, but when brown people do it, it's cause for alarm? You should read over the history of why America has always been called the "melting pot".

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    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/lgbt.html
    What is your obsession with the "sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America form all enemies, foreign and domestic"? I really get the impression that you just like to kiss-arse to people in office, cops, and the military because you really dislike Americans in general who never swore such an oath. In my lifetime, Barring ROTC, I never swore such an oath. And the oath I took in ROTC died the day I was removed from the program because of my sexuality. Hey, in case you didn't know, and I have to make it clear once again, THERE IS NO OATH REQUIRED BY A NATURAL BORN U.S. CITIZEN TO EXERCISE, AND ENJOY THE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES LAID OUT IN THE CONSTITUTION!

    Oh, glad to know you really know and understand the First Amendment so well! Except for one thing... the 1st Amendment guarantees your right to freedom of religion, so, ya know, if you're gonna quote the Bill of Rights, at least don't do it half-heartedly. There are also words written to protect other facets of free speech, free press, and freedom to peaceably assemble.


    Our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and our Oath of Allegiance, has provided freedom for United States citizens for 237 years and it will continue to provide freedom for each and every United States citizen as long as we protect it.
    I'm gonna call you Ms. Broken Record. WHAT IS THIS OATH OF ALLEGIANCE?! I never took an Oath of Allegiance. Hell, I never said the 'pledge of allegiance'. I suppose that makes me un-American, Anti-American, or some-how unworthy of the rights and freedoms that I enjoy today.

    Also, no, your bone throwing to the LGBT community does not, in any way, shape, or form, redeem you of your mistakes, and illogical rhetoric so far.
    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/regulations.html
    I agree with Rand Paul. Transparency exposes corruption.
    Transparency in WHAT? Hey, another nod to Rand Paul.

    I'm skipping over the other issues, because I'm about to go over my character limit.

    http://www.kentuckyisnotforsale.com/veterans.html
    I love the military and I will always try and do something special on the farm to help our military families, even if it is just getting them plants and seeds to start a vegetable garden. I think plants are very therapeutic and our military families go through a lot. It helps to have a garden, a place where you can watch life grow. The Kentucky Proud program supports our military with a very cool and very sweet logo designed just for them, it says, "Homegrown by Heroes". I love this and when I go to the farms this next year, I will make sure and visit the farms that are using this logo, because I want to include in the K-12 curriculum, a strong support for our military and our military families, past, present and future. We need to be there for our veterans, because they were and are still there for us.
    Honey, you need to just come out of the closet, your 'love' of the military jets past anything remotely near what a normal person should feel, and straight into the fetish-zone. You started the second sentence, and the rest of the comment, about how you think plants and gardening is good for military veterants, and make K-12 school curriculum teach kids to show strong support for the military,a nd military families.

    F*** the military, the veterans, and the families of veterans and active-duty military personnel. They get PLENTY of damned benefits, and services, and private grants/loans, and the unending admiration of People who would gladly become a Veteran's personal sex slave because they love the military so much. We don't need to be there, or here, or anywhere for our service veterans. There are federal, and state laws that make Veterans a protected class that cannot be legally discriminated against, or refused employment, or housing, because of their status with the military. And they CHOSE to VOLUNTEER to go get trained to KILL and HARM other human beings. But, Gays want the same protection, and it's immoral, and wrong, and needs to be shunned and such! Veterans are trained to live a life of the bare minimal, fighting and killing everyone they see as a threat, and living off rice and bear sh*t if they have to. They are trained to use Close-Quarters hand-to-hand combat, they are trained to kill effectively and silently with knives, and are trained to shoot the wings off a fly at 200 yards. AND Yet they still need special status, and protecting in the work place?!
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