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    Petition to imprison execute all gunowners!?!

    http://bearingarms.com/college-stude...ll-gun-owners/

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    In the video above (which we showed at the end of “Why do you need an assault rifle?” Why, to kill tyrants, of course), Dice pretends to be collecting signatures for the repeal of the Second Amendment.

    But Dice goes far beyond simply asking for repeal, and frankly tells people that the petition calls for gun owners to be shoved into concentration camps, or even executed in genocides. He’s intentionally attempting to be as absurd as possible… and still, all in the name of “pubic safety,” these people are willing to put their names on a petition calling for genocide. Dice himself is stunned.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    College students are in college because they don't know sh*t, and have to learn how to think (or, in the case of liberal/most colleges, what to think). You could circulate a petition to have all their mother's fed to the bears at Yellowstone, and college kids would sign it. This is just one example of how stupid some/many "Americans" are - the "World's Dumbest _____" videos are another. Pax...
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    It's not really "chilling".

    Numerous people have demonstrated that you can easily collect signatures on a petition to do just about anything (even contradictory things), and you don't even have to go to a college campus.

    Off the top of my head, I can recall Penn & Teller collecting signatures to ban water, and another guy collecting signatures to increase the totalitarian police state.

    Petitions are about as telling (and valuable) as the tracks on toilet paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    It's not really "chilling".

    Numerous people have demonstrated that you can easily collect signatures on a petition to do just about anything (even contradictory things), and you don't even have to go to a college campus.

    Off the top of my head, I can recall Penn & Teller collecting signatures to ban water, and another guy collecting signatures to increase the totalitarian police state.

    Petitions are about as telling (and valuable) as the tracks on toilet paper.
    All petitions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    It's not really "chilling".

    Numerous people have demonstrated that you can easily collect signatures on a petition to do just about anything (even contradictory things), and you don't even have to go to a college campus.

    Off the top of my head, I can recall Penn & Teller collecting signatures to ban water, and another guy collecting signatures to increase the totalitarian police state.

    Petitions are about as telling (and valuable) as the tracks on toilet paper.
    Ban water? So was the point that people just don't read/care what the petition says before signing it, or maybe that they sign it just to make you go away and stop asking them questions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Ban water? So was the point that people just don't read/care what the petition says before signing it, or maybe that they sign it just to make you go away and stop asking them questions?
    IIRC, they didn't use the word "water", but "Dihydrogen monoxide". They listed the side effects it can cause, like sweating, and people signed without pause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    IIRC, they didn't use the word "water", but "Dihydrogen monoxide". They listed the side effects it can cause, like sweating, and people signed without pause.
    Especially considering that dihydrogen monoxide killed ~20,000 citizens from 2005 to 2009.

    Of those who died from dihydrogen monoxide 80% were male.

    One in five deaths from dihydrogen monoxide were kids 14 and under.

    More than 50% of dihydrogen monoxide victims treated in emergency departments (EDs) require hospitalization or transfer for further care (compared with a hospitalization rate of about 6% for all unintentional injuries). These nonfatal dihydrogen monoxide injuries can cause severe brain damage that may result in long-term disabilities such as memory problems, learning disabilities, and permanent loss of basic functioning (e.g., permanent vegetative state).

    http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreation...factsheet.html

    If this is what I'd heard about dihydrogen monoxide I'd want to ban it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPackingMomma View Post
    IIRC, they didn't use the word "water", but "Dihydrogen monoxide". They listed the side effects it can cause, like sweating, and people signed without pause.
    It wouldn't make a lick of difference if your intention was to use the results to fear-monger regarding the supposed willingness of college students to eliminate water-drinkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    All petitions?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    It wouldn't make a lick of difference if your intention was to use the results to fear-monger regarding the supposed willingness of college students to eliminate water-drinkers.
    I agree. Simply noting a tactic used to exploit the gullible while playing lip service to their sense of intelligence and duty.

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    You know those emails you get from scammers that have horrible titles, horrible grammar, and horrible spelling all while purporting to be from a Nigerian Prince who should presumably know how to spell? The reason they are so badly written is to weed out smart people, leaving only the stupid to respond, thus ensuring a higher percentage of responders will actually be gullible enough to be tricked and lose lots of money.

    Petitions work the same way. The vast majority of people willing to talk to a petition gatherer are gullible. If they weren't chances are they wouldn't stop to talk to one. So all that getting a petition like this signed proves is that stupid people are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    Yes.
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    Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    OK
    A "petition" (noun) is not the only means of "petitioning (verb) government".

    Although I might opine that the right to petition government is, in practice although not in theory, also worth so much toilet paper.

    Edit: I love how skimlinks seems to have a real obsession with posts mentioning toilet paper. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arentol View Post
    Petitions work the same way. The vast majority of people willing to talk to a petition gatherer are gullible. If they weren't chances are they wouldn't stop to talk to one. So all that getting a petition like this signed proves is that stupid people are stupid.
    Exactly. We could be more charitable and say that those who actually answer petitions are just trying to get the guy to go away, but are too polite (or weak-willed?) to simply walk away.

    But your point remains.

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    They did not post what the petition actually read ... plus folks will sign anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    Exactly. We could be more charitable and say that those who actually answer petitions are just trying to get the guy to go away, but are too polite (or weak-willed?) to simply walk away.

    But your point remains.
    So, I should have titled this thread, "College Students Have no Backbone" or "College Students are too Week Willed to Think"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    So, I should have titled this thread, "College Students Have no Backbone" or "College Students are too Week Willed to Think"?
    We can take your contention for a test-drive, if you like.

    I'll be the college student.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    We can take your contention for a test-drive, if you like.

    I'll be the college student.

    I am a college student, I would have told the guy to take a flying leap off of the nearest skyscraper.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    There was a video I saw a few weeks back (can't remember who it was by) where a guy interviewed people on the street, asking if we should attack the Al Qaeda base on the moon.

    IIRC, most said we should, some said they didn't know, others said they'd prefer not to answer. If the interviewer got a response that pressed for facts, it wasn't shown.

    People tend not to scrutinize information if it is presented in an authoritative manner; the few who do, don't make good entertainment or assist the end goal, usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    A "petition" (noun) is not the only means of "petitioning (verb) government".

    Although I might opine that the right to petition government is, in practice although not in theory, also worth so much toilet paper.

    Edit: I love how skimlinks seems to have a real obsession with posts mentioning toilet paper. Go figure.
    Well, I would petition my government with a petition, like getting constitutional carry. But, you are correct.....the toilet paper thing anyway.

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    There should be a petition to stop internet petitions, they are useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    There should be a petition to stop internet petitions, they are useless.
    Where do I sign?
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    Looks like he was also targeting exchange students.

    So there are a number of problems with that which have nothing to do with what American Citizens know and believe, and everything to do with being obnoxious and driving an opinion with false evidence.

    Sorry, but this is evidence of little but jack-assery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PavePusher View Post
    Sorry, but this is evidence of little but jack-assery.
    Agreed.

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    Well what I want to know is this: assuming these twits understand that they would have to do the executing, how do they think they well accomplish this? Stink eye gun owners to death? Surge through the streets in packs of iPod/Ralph Lauren designer clothes wearing mobs and taking on lead spewing gun owners?.... Oh ...please ....! I would call these people retarded, but that would be an insult to those who are actually trying to make their way through life with a mental impairment the best they can. Not those who waste every damn brain cell they were "gifted" since birth!

    I say bring it BIOTCHES!

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