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    Planning an RV trip

    So I just finished checking Handgunlaw.us and find that Oregon does not honor any other states HCP. I don't have a lockable console/glove box so it has to be in plain view. The only way I can do that is put it on the dash board. Thats not happening. Oregon sucks big time. I will try to avoid Oregon all together seeing me and my defense tools are not welcome. Am I TOTALLY WRONG on this? I mean, it says even loaded magazines are not lawfull. I am just stunned at how restrictive Oregon is to visitors that are willing to SPEND MONEY there. I think I will send your governor a no guns no money card.

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    There are only SOME locations in which loaded magazines are banned and those bans have not yet been challenged in court. I believe Portland, and all of Multnomah county are the only ones with the loaded magazine bans.

    The rest of the state is fine. Since you will be in an RV, if the weapon is in the RV portion and not in reach as you're driving you should be fine.

    While Oregon doesn't recognize any other states concealed carry license (we keep trying to get that fixed), it IS a open carry state.

    Check the stickied thread at the top of the Oregon forum and you'll find a thread on our state pamphlet that has a list of the "ban cities". Multnomah county is a recent addition which may not be included.
    "The Second Amendment speaks nothing to an unfettered Right". (Post # 100)
    "Restrictions are not infringements. Bans are infringements.--if it reaches beyond Reasonable bans". (Post # 103)
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    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...ons-Bill/page5

    Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nothing in any of my posts should be considered legal advice. If you need legal advice, consult a reputable attorney, not an internet forum.

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    While parked and using the RV as a residence you are protected as if it were your own home per ORS 166.250(2)(b). While out on the road it is less clear, but I'd keep it in the back and out of line of sight of uncovered windows as there is no case law to tell us exactly when an RV is considered to be in use as a residence with regards to it being in motion on the road.

    http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/166.250

    Please do mail the card to the mayor of Beaverton if you decide not to come through our town due to your inability to carry a loaded firearm as you do not have an Oregon CHL.
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    It doesn't have to be on the dash to be considered "plain view". If you are traveling alone, on the seat next to you would count, or ON the center console.

    As mentioned, it's an open-carry state with only a few municipalities restricting that.

    While Oregon ain't perfect, it's a ton better than California!

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    ...and most Oregon County Sheriffs are happy to take your money and issue you a non resident CHL. I'm a WA guy and have maintained CCW's in both states for 18 years.

    Pisses me off that they don't recognize WA and steal my money but at least I can travel both states always armed and loaded, CC or OC without worry.

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    TN does not qualify as a contiguous state therefore they are second class citizens.

    I have written our attorney general and asked her to establish CHL reciprocity, I encourage everyone else to do likewise. They want to build a physical bridge between OR and WA but we can't even play nice with something as trivial as CHL recognition. I blame the OR socialists/communists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM View Post
    TN does not qualify as a contiguous state therefore they are second class citizens.

    I have written our attorney general and asked her to establish CHL reciprocity, I encourage everyone else to do likewise. They want to build a physical bridge between OR and WA but we can't even play nice with something as trivial as CHL recognition. I blame the OR socialists/communists.
    Yep... But to be fair I'm pretty sure that Olympia has "almost" as many social engineers as Salem.

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    Thanks for the input so far. The sticky is helpful. This is why total preemption is so important, so that there is no patchwork of laws all over the place. TN is not utopia in this respect either. I know I will be good if I keep them in the RV, but a firearm not accessable is a firearm thats useless. I get a few drivers not very happy that I can't haul my trailer 80mph and take the curves on 2 wheels. Road rage is a real issue with RVers, on the recieving end. I know of no other state that will not recognize ANY other states permits. That alone may be just reason to avoid your fine state, and from all my research I would really like to. I have not totally decieded on what to do as the wife is not of the same mindset on this. She wants to see the sights. I can't blame her. Your coast is beautiful and the mountains gorgeous. Happy wife happy life as they say.
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    I wouldn't put Oregon in the same category of California, New York, and the other usual suspects that also do not recognize other states' permits. Oregon does allow loaded open carry throughout most of the state without a permit (Portland area being the one I hear to check for their differences).

    I travel to Oregon frequently. I'll get their permit one of these days, but of the few sheriffs I've found so far that will grant to me (I'm in a contiguous state so it is MAY ISSUE), they do so on a limited basis and are booked months in advance for the appointments to apply.

    It seems easy enough to comply with the laws on having it in the vehicle, even though they are a bit odd. It could be so much worse, that I won't consider them an anti-gun state for it. Screw a holster to the side of the console for secure non-concealed storage while on the road.

    From www.handgunlaw.us:
    From the Oregon Firearms Federation:
    Oregon has no State law against carrying a loaded handgun in your car as long as it’s :
    (a) Not concealed or
    (b) “Not readily accessible.” (If Concealed)

    “Not readily accessible" (for now) means:

    (4)(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection, a handgun is readily accessible within the
    meaning of this section if the handgun is within the passenger compartment of the vehicle.
    (b) If a vehicle has no storage location that is outside the passenger compartment of the vehicle, a handgun is
    not readily accessible within the meaning of this section if: www.handgunlaw.us 7
    (A) The handgun is stored in a closed and locked glove compartment, center console or other container; and
    (B) The key is not inserted into the lock, if the glove compartment, center console or other container unlocks
    with a key.

    However, localities are allowed to regulate loaded firearms in “public places” which now includes your car.
    This only applies to people without CHL’s.

    So you need to check local regulations. In Portland, for example, you may not have a loaded gun anywhere
    in your car and you may not even have loaded magazines separate from the handgun. It must still, however,
    be either visible or “not readily accessible."
    Last edited by MAC702; 02-13-2014 at 03:14 PM.
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    I stand corrected on the only state not recognizing other states permits, and lets add Illinois to the list too. I will simply capitulate to the powers that be should we venture Oregons way and obey the law. what else can I do really? To err on the side of lawfulness so not to be a guest in any of their lockups.

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