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    College kid needs some help

    Hey guys,

    I go to college in North Dakota, but my parents live in Spokane. I am coming home from the summer and I currently have a class 2 ND CCW permit. I am 19 years old.

    I have read a lot of the WA laws on CCW permits, obviously you have to be 21 to get it. Here is where I get fuzzy, no permit to open carry but at what age am I legally allowed to carry openly, unloaded (loaded mag on the other side of my hip)?

    Ive read 18 and I've read 21. Anyone got any answers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotforhire View Post
    Hey guys,

    I go to college in North Dakota, but my parents live in Spokane. I am coming home from the summer and I currently have a class 2 ND CCW permit. I am 19 years old.

    I have read a lot of the WA laws on CCW permits, obviously you have to be 21 to get it. Here is where I get fuzzy, no permit to open carry but at what age am I legally allowed to carry openly, unloaded (loaded mag on the other side of my hip)?

    Ive read 18 and I've read 21. Anyone got any answers?

    RCW 9.41.240

    Possession of pistol by person from eighteen to twenty-one.


    Unless an exception under RCW 9.41.042, 9.41.050, or 9.41.060 applies, a person at least eighteen years of age, but less than twenty-one years of age, may possess a pistol only:

    (1) In the person's place of abode;

    (2) At the person's fixed place of business; or

    (3) On real property under his or her control.






    RCW 9.41.042

    Children Permissible firearm possession.


    RCW 9.41.040(2)(a)(iii) shall not apply to any person under the age of eighteen years who is:

    (1) In attendance at a hunter's safety course or a firearms safety course;

    (2) Engaging in practice in the use of a firearm or target shooting at an established range authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction in which such range is located or any other area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited;

    (3) Engaging in an organized competition involving the use of a firearm, or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group that uses firearms as a part of the performance;

    (4) Hunting or trapping under a valid license issued to the person under Title 77 RCW;

    (5) In an area where the discharge of a firearm is permitted, is not trespassing, and the person either: (a) Is at least fourteen years of age, has been issued a hunter safety certificate, and is using a lawful firearm other than a pistol; or (b) is under the supervision of a parent, guardian, or other adult approved for the purpose by the parent or guardian;

    (6) Traveling with any unloaded firearm in the person's possession to or from any activity described in subsection (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of this section;

    (7) On real property under the control of his or her parent, other relative, or legal guardian and who has the permission of the parent or legal guardian to possess a firearm;

    (8) At his or her residence and who, with the permission of his or her parent or legal guardian, possesses a firearm for the purpose of exercising the rights specified in RCW 9A.16.020(3); or

    (9) Is a member of the armed forces of the United States, national guard, or organized reserves, when on duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotforhire View Post
    Hey guys,

    I go to college in North Dakota, but my parents live in Spokane. I am coming home from the summer and I currently have a class 2 ND CCW permit. I am 19 years old.

    I have read a lot of the WA laws on CCW permits, obviously you have to be 21 to get it. Here is where I get fuzzy, no permit to open carry but at what age am I legally allowed to carry openly, unloaded (loaded mag on the other side of my hip)?

    Ive read 18 and I've read 21. Anyone got any answers?
    No, I'm on my phone and can't cite every involved law. But the answer is generally you may not. Read rcw 9.41.240 and the exceptions for a better idea
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    In addition to Right Wing Whacko's cites there are some other exemptions. There is a thread on here somewhere I think it's called Green is Faster's guide to carry for under 21.
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    I am truly sorry I can't answer your question It has been so long since I was 19 I can't remember that far back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:

    (1) Marshals, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens or their deputies, correctional personnel and community corrections officers as long as they are employed as such who have completed government-sponsored law enforcement firearms training and have been subject to a check through the national instant criminal background check system or an equivalent background check within the past five years, or other law enforcement officers of this state or another state. Correctional personnel and community corrections officers seeking the waiver provided for by this section are required to pay for any background check that is needed in order to exercise the waiver;

    (2) Members of the armed forces of the United States or of the national guard or organized reserves, when on duty;

    (3) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed pistol;

    (4) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of the person, if possessing, using, or carrying a pistol in the usual or ordinary course of the business;

    (5) Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive pistols from the United States or from this state;

    (6) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of target shooting, when those members are at or are going to or from their places of target practice;

    (7) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of modern and antique firearm collecting, when those members are at or are going to or from their collector's gun shows and exhibits;

    (8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;


    (9) Any person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a closed opaque case or secure wrapper; or

    (10) Law enforcement officers retired for service or physical disabilities, except for those law enforcement officers retired because of mental or stress-related disabilities. This subsection applies only to a retired officer who has: (a) Obtained documentation from a law enforcement agency within Washington state from which he or she retired that is signed by the agency's chief law enforcement officer and that states that the retired officer was retired for service or physical disability; and (b) not been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity of a crime making him or her ineligible for a concealed pistol license.


    [2011 c 221 1; 2005 c 453 3; 1998 c 253 2; 1996 c 295 5; 1995 c 392 1; 1994 sp.s. c 7 406; 1961 c 124 5; 1935 c 172 6; RRS 2516-6.]

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    Now that people answered the unimportant stuff, here's the important stuff:

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911er View Post
    I am truly sorry I can't answer your question It has been so long since I was 19 I can't remember that far back.
    That's because dinosaurs didn't have gun laws.

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    or even guns for that matter
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