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The added benefit
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Maverick9
Regular Member
Yeah, is that a benefit or a punishment?
To some it's a benefit.....
For others it's seen as a giant step (as opposed to baby steps) to a state purchase permit.
Is the koolaid glass half empty or half full?:uhoh:
2a4all
Regular Member
I have mixed feelings about the annual background check. If an annual check is such a good idea, why isn't being done now? I think I read somewhere that Kentucky does this monthly. Basically, this so-called lifetime permit becomes an annual conditional permit. Oh, wait: This might unearth an attempted identity theft of the permitee.
I don't see that the holder of such a permit skipping Virginia B/G checks when purchasing a firearm is an equitable trade off.
At one time [FONT=Georgia, serif]Belladonna was a popular beauty aid. It was also a popular hallucinogenic for people like witch cults.
After it was used to poison an entire invading army I suppose people figured out it probably wasn't good for them despite what some said. That realization came a little late for those that died.
History repeats itself, the poisons just change. [/FONT]
After it was used to poison an entire invading army I suppose people figured out it probably wasn't good for them despite what some said. That realization came a little late for those that died.
History repeats itself, the poisons just change. [/FONT]
AFCop
Regular Member
Here is an idea... flow with federal guidelines and do it every 5 years... Still qualifies for the NIC exemption...
Thundar
Regular Member
Be Careful What You Wish For
I do not like CHPs. That being said,
one of the few good things about CHPs is that they are administered by a circuit court t, not a Richmond bureaucrat. Why would anyone be OK with giving the state police the power to destroy CHPs?
Unneeded, and for many, an absolutely unwanted change.
CHiPpers will regret what is being foisted upon them.
I do not like CHPs. That being said,
one of the few good things about CHPs is that they are administered by a circuit court t, not a Richmond bureaucrat. Why would anyone be OK with giving the state police the power to destroy CHPs?
Unneeded, and for many, an absolutely unwanted change.
CHiPpers will regret what is being foisted upon them.
I agree Thundar!
How could any rational person think this is good.
This is exactly what Lauri Haas and Goddard have been asking for for years. Massive control of guns. Once a State Purchase Permit system is in place the next logical step is to close the so called Gunshow loophole. Obviously FTF sales aren't needed since everyone will have been pre-approved.
But then again, people will be smiling away in the pot while the water comes to a boil because they will have a lifetime permission slip.
Roverhound
Regular Member
This is along the lines of the federal gubmint and the all state CHP acceptance bill. Do we really want the feds to keep track of our CHP?
wylde007
Regular Member
That's better how, exactly?
If you had recently been the subject of VBGDC witchhunt under 18.2-308.09 and .013 you might change your tune.
:monkey
davidmcbeth
Banned
I already got one .. its called a birth certificate lol
Thundar
Regular Member
There are some in the circuit courts with a Napoleon complex, sorry you have been the victim of one of them.
The state police already have significant power over guns with the administration of out of state CHPs and State background checks for the purchase of firearms from a dealer.
The chief justice of the Virginia Supreme Court oversees the circuit courts. Guess who oversees the commander of the State Police - yup, Terry.
wylde007
Regular Member
I Said "Subject"
Not victim.
Presently, because of the wording of the statute(s) I kept my CHP. The judge was not necessarily happy about it, but said the language was clear, even if the intent was not.
Just another good reason to eliminate the permit process altogether.
Not victim.
Presently, because of the wording of the statute(s) I kept my CHP. The judge was not necessarily happy about it, but said the language was clear, even if the intent was not.
Just another good reason to eliminate the permit process altogether.
Thundar
Regular Member
Not victim.
Presently, because of the wording of the statute(s) I kept my CHP. The judge was not necessarily happy about it, but said the language was clear, even if the intent was not.
Just another good reason to eliminate the permit process altogether.
Did not mean to offend. I stand corrected subject not victim.
Any thoughts on why I think circuit court is better than state police for administration?
Fully agree we need to get rid of permits for the Commonwealth, go to constitutional carry and issue permits as a convenience for our citizens to use in other less free states.
wylde007
Regular Member
None taken.
Well, presumably because judges are at least elected or, barring that, answer to an elected official whereas the VSP do not?