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    Broken holster scenario question

    I was reading on another forum reviewing different holsters and a poster wrote that he had broken the plastic/polycarbonate paddle that attached his holster to his hip. He explained that the holstered firearm snaged the arm of a chair as he sat down and snapped the paddle of his holster. This got me thinking and the following scenario and questions popped into my head:

    Say this scenario happens while one is OCing and dining at a restaurant. This OCer either does not have CPL or does not have it on their person at the time. What would one do with their firearm now that it can no longer be attached to their body? Is it legit to just hand carry the holstered firearm in this situation? If one has a backpack would it be considered concealed carry to unload the firearm and stow in the backpack until the person arrives home to either secure the firearm or replace the holster?

    Other than not buying a crappy paddle/holster how would those on this forum deal with this situation should it arise?

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    Different laws in different states - someone local will be along shortly to offer state specific advice.

    Generally though: Under no circumstances unload in a restaurant or anywhere public like that. Storage in a backpack is normally considered concealed.

    I might simply tuck the entire rig in my waist band al la Mexican carry but with a holster.

    BTW - that is precisely why I prefer OWB hostlers, that and I do not need over sized pants to comfortably accommodate IWB styles.
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    Walk out to your vehicle and secure it inside. Finish having dinner with your companion.

    If using public transit, stuff the holstered firearm between belt and pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hovercat View Post
    stuff the holstered firearm between belt and pants.
    Absolutely! Common sense remedy to a simple problem. Hovercat, you have NO future in politics, you think too well.
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    I don't want to start another flame war over inanimate objects, but broken holsters are why I prefer good leather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I don't want to start another flame war over inanimate objects, but broken holsters are why I prefer good leather.
    An inexpensive gun in a quality holster is a better combination than a high dollar pistola carried in a POS rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I don't want to start another flame war over inanimate objects, but broken holsters are why I prefer good leather.
    I agree, this is why I love my DeSantis leather holster. It can't break and it's also comfortable and very nice looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohan View Post
    If one has a backpack would it be considered concealed carry to unload the firearm and stow in the backpack until the person arrives home to either secure the firearm or replace the holster?
    If carrying an unloaded pistol such that it is "out of sight" is considered concealed carry, I propose that it is effectively illegal to buy a pistol in Washington state unless you are in possession of a concealed pistol license. Think about it, you are in possession of an unloaded pistol that is inside an opaque case (concealed). Thus you would be violating the law simply by transporting your new firearm from the gun store to your home.

    Because of this, I can't imagine that having an unloaded pistol in a backpack would be considered concealed carry. Or at the very least it might be a compelling defense were such a charge to be brought against you?
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    Well,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by FrayedString View Post
    If carrying an unloaded pistol such that it is "out of sight" is considered concealed carry, I propose that it is effectively illegal to buy a pistol in Washington state unless you are in possession of a concealed pistol license. Think about it, you are in possession of an unloaded pistol that is inside an opaque case (concealed). Thus you would be violating the law simply by transporting your new firearm from the gun store to your home.

    Because of this, I can't imagine that having an unloaded pistol in a backpack would be considered concealed carry. Or at the very least it might be a compelling defense were such a charge to be brought against you?
    Many folks,, in many states,, have put forth this inane argument,,, lots of times...
    I KNOW YOU are just making a point about their stupid logic,, or lack there of....

    In Our State,,, 9.41.060 make unloaded carry in an opaque container,,, legal,, TRANSPORT!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1245A Defender View Post
    Many folks,, in many states,, have put forth this inane argument,,, lots of times...
    I KNOW YOU are just making a point about their stupid logic,, or lack there of....

    In Our State,,, 9.41.060 make unloaded carry in an opaque container,,, legal,, TRANSPORT!!!!

    Yeah, 9.41.060(9) should cover it. Good call, I'd forgotten about that!

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