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    Thumbs down New .22 smart pistol , must run out and buy one right away!

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/02/...cmp=latestnews

    wait it's a .22 and it costs $1399, then you have to pay another $399 for a special watch to wear that will activate the pistol.....

    The first so-called “smart gun” has hit the shelves at U.S. retail outlets, including one of the biggest firearms stores in California, according to the Washington Post.

    The Smart System iP1, a .22-caliber pistol made by the German gun-maker Armatix GmbH, can only function with an accompanying wristwatch, which is sold separately.

    When the RFID-equipped watch is activated by a PIN number and placed near the gun — like when a shooter grips the handle — it sends a signal to unlock the gun and a light on the back of the weapon turns green, according to the report. Otherwise, the firearm stays locked and the light on the back remains red, it stated.

    The pistol sells for $1,399 and the watch retails for another $399 — more than double the cost of .40-caliber Glock handgun, according to the article.

    The company is betting that demand for the technology will increase as consumers seek guns modified for safety.

    I dunno, I think this company is making a very poor bet. How does this expensive .22 shoot? How does it point? How many rounds does it hold? What happens if the batteries get low and I need the gun to defend myself?

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    WaPo ‘We need the iPhone of guns’: Will smart guns transform the gun industry?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...e03_story.html

    http://www.armatix.us/iP1-Pistol.779.0.html?&L=7
    The gun only functions if you are recognized and on target.

    If you are aiming away from the target area, the pistol is immediately deactivated.
    No misuse against people or objects around you.

    Armatix target shooting with no compromise on safety!
    http://www.armatix.us/TRS.781.0.html?&L=7

    User manual 88 pages

    http://www.armatix.us/fileadmin/Arma...CC_2014-01.pdf

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    Glad I don't live in new jersey. How dumb is this:

    A law that injects technology into the gun debate has lain dormant for more than 10 years. Now it may be about to wake up.

    In 2002, New Jersey passed a law saying that once technology is available to prevent a gun from being used by an unauthorized person, only that type of handgun may be sold in the state.

    Now, a German company, Armatix GmbH, is close to putting the first such "personalized" handgun on U.S. shelves. The model, called the iP1 Pistol, can be set up to fire only when its owner is wearing a special watch that communicates with the gun.



    The New Jersey law, the only one of its kind in the U.S., mandates that within three years from the date such a gun becomes available in any state, all handguns sold in New Jersey must include technology to limit their use to specific people.

    The Armatix model already is available in Europe and Asia and will "almost certainly" reach U.S. stores by the end of the year, according to Belinda Padilla, the president of Armatix's U.S. arm.

    The iP1 Pistol will cost $1,399 and the watch an additional $399, Armatix said. That is a significant premium over a Glock or Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. SWHC +1.54% handgun, which costs in the range of $400 to $500.

    To use the Armatix, the gun's owner must enter a five-digit passcode into the watch, which then communicates wirelessly with the weapon to unlock it. The user can set the pistol to be active for one to eight hours.

    The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives approved the weapon for importation into the U.S. in 2011, and earlier this year California, which has some of the nation's strictest gun laws, approved the sale of the gun.

    California is the only other state so far to consider a requirement for personalized handguns; a bill has been passed by its state Senate and awaits action in its Assembly.

    A federal law similar to New Jersey's was introduced in May, by Rep. John Tierney (D., Mass.). But given the chilly reception Congress gave to a package of gun laws earlier this year, proponents aren't optimistic.

    The new technology is being monitored closely by both sides of the gun debate. Gun-rights supporters fear the New Jersey law will limit options for gun purchasers there and in other states that may follow suit. Gun-control backers hope the law spurs further technological advances in weapons across the country, which ultimately could lead to a drop in gun-related injuries and deaths.

    For the law to take effect, the state's attorney general must certify that a pistol model for sale in the U.S. includes personalization technology and meets "reliability standards generally used in the industry."

    At the end of the law's three-year phase-in, the only handguns that could be sold in New Jersey would be personalized ones. But the law wouldn't affect guns that residents already own.

    The iP1 Pistol will cost $1,399 and the watch an additional $399, Armatix said. Julie Platner for The Wall Street Journal

    A spokesman for acting New Jersey Attorney General John Hoffman, a Republican, said "we understand the statutory obligations [the law] places on our office," but declined to comment on the Armatix model.

    New Jersey Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll, a Republican who voted against the bill, said there is no movement to try to change or overturn the law. "Too many people in the legislature just truly don't like guns, and don't believe that people need them," he said.

    Supporters say that if the Armatix gun isn't the one that sets the New Jersey law in motion, another model will. Guns often mentioned include one by an Irish company called TriggerSmart Technologies, which is activated when the user slips on a special ring or bracelet, and the "Intelligun," by Kodiak Industries of Utah, which uses a fingerprint-based locking system.

    "The technology is here," said Nicola Bocour, a director at Ceasefire NJ, a gun-violence prevention group. "Apple is using biometrics with its smartphones. Guns are next."

    Backers of New Jersey's law and signed by then-Gov. James McGreeveyhope it would cut down on suicides and firearms accidents, especially those involving children. "Our thought was that the bill, if passed, would save lives every year, without infringing anyone's rights," said Stephen Teret, a professor of public health at Johns Hopkins University who helped New Jersey craft the law.

    But gun-rights groups say a provision that exempts law enforcement from having to use personalized guns undercuts the measure. "The law itself acknowledges that this technology is inherently unreliable," said Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association.

    Backers said they didn't extend the law to police to prevent complications in the bill's passage.

    A gun-industry association, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, said that while it doesn't oppose "the development of owner-authorized technology for firearms," it does oppose legislative mandates. "There's little consumer demand for these products, and they haven't yet proven to be reliable at all," said Larry Keane, a senior vice president at the group.
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    Glad I don't live in NJ or Commiefornia...
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    The iP1 pistol is intended for target shooting only and will not function if it is not within
    10” of the referenced iW1 wristwatch and the PIN code entered, or it or the referenced
    iW1 wristwatch do not have sufficient battery power, or communication between them is
    blocked. It should not be relied upon for purposes of self-defense.
    from manual ^^^^


    Now ya got TWO batteries .... freaking heck ... useless !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnbo View Post
    But gun-rights groups say a provision that exempts law enforcement from having to use personalized guns undercuts the measure. "The law itself acknowledges that this technology is inherently unreliable," said Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association.
    That sums it up nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavalryman View Post
    That sums it up nicely.
    I think we should start the smart gun mandate with LEOs and retired LEOs carrying under LEOSA. After all these are the people that are most likely to a) have their guns taken away in a struggle and b) use their gun on themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavalryman View Post
    That sums it up nicely.
    They want us to have unreliable guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    They want us to have unreliable guns.
    Imagine how easy it would be for Project Eldest Son to be implemented at home...
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    I suspect the real reason for exempting law enforcement is that when they tallied up the cost, there wouldn't be one police chief in the known universe who would support it and the politicians need their stooges standing up there saying that "the police" support this measure.

    (Not all police chiefs are stooges just as not all street cops support your gun rights, but that's the trend in both cases.)

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