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    NY high court limits lies that cops can tell ..

    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/p...oint-1.7147343

    NY court rules police can lie to suspects, but only to a point

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    “Defendant was told 67 times that what had been done to his son was an accident, 14 times that he would not be arrested, and eight times that he would be going home,” the court record stated. “These representations were, moreover, undeniably instrumental in the extraction of a defendant’s most damaging admissions.”
    So, is 50 times too many? How about 30 times, may be 10 time?

    I reckon once is too many. If you must lie to get what you want you are a cheat.....and a liar. Completely untrustworthy. Cops wonder why folks are increasingly skeptical of any cops motive when that cop approaches them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    So, is 50 times too many? How about 30 times, may be 10 time?

    I reckon once is too many. If you must lie to get what you want you are a cheat.....and a liar. Completely untrustworthy. Cops wonder why folks are increasingly skeptical of any cops motive when that cop approaches them.
    We all know what cop's motives are : to arrest you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    So, is 50 times too many? How about 30 times, may be 10 time? I reckon once is too many. If you must lie to get what you want you are a cheat.....and a liar. Completely untrustworthy. Cops wonder why folks are increasingly skeptical of any cops motive when that cop approaches them.
    What's the old saw about, "We know what you are, now we're just haggling over the cost"?

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    I said it before and I will say it again.

    Because of the states protecting and even enshrining the cops authority to lie, we must for our own benefit and well being assume every cop is lying to us. Sad but we are not the ones who drew that line.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    This is shocking!

    I cannot believe that New York courts would actually limit the police as to how much they can lie. Have they ruled if holding crossed fingers behind the back cancels a lie?

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