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    Sb-789

    SB-789 is now has been introduced. Does away with Gun Boards along with other things.

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(nxx...e=2014-SB-0789
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    SB-789 is now has been introduced. Does away with Gun Boards along with other things.

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(nxx...e=2014-SB-0789
    Hip, hip, hooray! No more of those Pius, smacktard, buttmonkies at the WACO GB urinating down upon the serfs from their lofty positions. Somehow I see the GB's & MSP pushing back on this and doing their best to derail it. Hope I'm wrong. They should fear Michigan's very active and vocal pro-2A / pro-human rights groups.

    Looks good from my quick skim of it. :thumbup:
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    Sarcasm is supposed to be purple

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    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    Sarcasm is supposed to be purple

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    Doesn't seem to like the term buttmonkies.....lol
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    Second to last sentence

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    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    Second to last sentence

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    N.M.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    N.M.
    I didn't mean it as a slam as I suspect you took it, I meant that it is hard to get gun owners to agree on anything. some are likely to say this doesn't go far enough so they won't support it, others will say the second period should have been a comma so I am against it. Personally the bill looks good to me. Some will not like it because I do. Basically I meant we do not have that which we most need, unity.
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    I didn't mean it as a slam as I suspect you took it, I meant that it is hard to get gun owners to agree on anything. some are likely to say this doesn't go far enough so they won't support it, others will say the second period should have been a comma so I am against it. Personally the bill looks good to me. Some will not like it because I do. Basically I meant we do not have that which we most need, unity.
    A very, very, very valid point. How can we foster it? We have great examples of very successful groups around the USA: VCDL, AzCDL to name a couple. Why is it so hard for MI groups to have similar success? A decade ago MCRGO was doing great & moving mountains in the legislature. Until unity and cohesion become the standard in MI pro-2A / human rights groups I see it being a tougher road for their attempts than need be.

    http://www.vcdl.org/accom

    http://www.azcdl.org/html/accomplishments.html
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    If this bill doesn't give us Constitutional Carry with a total elimination of PFZs then I see no point in passing it
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    Quote Originally Posted by xmanhockey7 View Post
    If this bill doesn't give us Constitutional Carry with a total elimination of PFZs then I see no point in passing it
    For those with color blindness - all text above in purple.
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