Maverick9
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...97852e-9f3d-11e3-878c-65222df220eb_story.html
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Officer shoots 70 yo man reaching for his cane.
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OC for ME
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Non story.....
Maverick9
Regular Member
I find this highly suspicious. Most people won't get out of their car. A disabled person even less likely to do so.
He did survive. Be interesting to hear his side.
If indeed he did get out and reached for something he might have a hard time collecting anything in a suit. Should have stayed in the car.
He did survive. Be interesting to hear his side.
If indeed he did get out and reached for something he might have a hard time collecting anything in a suit. Should have stayed in the car.
color of law
Accomplished Advocate
"Appropriate"?????
Not "appearing appropriate."
But, "appropriate."
Kopis
Regular Member
one day a kid with a wii controller, the next day an old man with a cane.... yikes. i keep my hands on the wheel and show my papers when asked. 
Maverick9
Regular Member
No, you're smart. You don't have expired stickers, or speed or break traffic laws. Every stop on the road has a potential to lose your life - after all it's a stranger with a deadly weapon.
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Fallschirjmäger
Active member
If officers are going to interact with the public with the assumption that "this guy may be the one guy out of thousands that kills me" then it would only seem appropriate for the public to interact with officers with the assumption of "this may be the cop that overreacts and shoots me."
It only takes that one guy, and if I don't know Officer Friendly then he's a danger with a deadly weapon, right?
DocWalker
Regular Member
This goes to the "us against them attitude".
If an officer is that insecure then they need to find another line of work.
"APPROPRIATE"....my ^$%
davidmcbeth
Banned
Could be a cane-gun? That's what the cop is saying? (snicker)
OC for ME
Regular Member
Right.
Sure. How about you head on down to your local LEA and ask the chief to get all those insecure cops, cuz we can tell who they are just by looking at them, to quit. Then life for thee and we gets better.....mmm'k.
This is an excellent point and perfect context.
The FACT is police shoot/kill about 750 people every year in America.
Only about 35 cops are murdered every year in America.
Maverick9
Regular Member
In addition in the first instance, it's illegal to fight back or resist. You have to just stand there and be killed, then hope your survivors can win a settlement in court (in most states).
Primus
Regular Member
Negative... you have a right to resist if your life is in danger... been covered here many times.
Key words are only if life is in danger. So no if someone says "put your hands behind your back" you cannot resist and say no. That's resisting arrest (no force). You can actively resist arrest and fight back but that'll add more charges.
If someone is beating you in the head with a baton then you can resist.
I believe the case was where the cop was shot because he was using excessive force? I know someone will correct me if that's wrong.
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DocWalker
Regular Member
You can tell them by their aggressiveness.
Shoot an old man with a cane...get fired.
Shoot a kid with a wii controler in his home...get fired.
Shoot someone while handcuffed and on the ground...get fired.
Beat a guy to death while he is handcuffed...get fired.
Pretty simple, might not help that person but it would help the community as a whole.
I forgot, shoot an unarmed scared lady driving away in the back....get fired. (this one actually happened and the town is safer for it)
How many think the wii and cane killers will get fired?????
OC for ME
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Not in Missouri. If that someone is a cop arresting you that is.
Primus
Regular Member
I apologize I should have said loom to state law. I was in reference to all the supreme court decisions guys have thrown around on here about it. That's all.
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Firearms Iinstuctor
Regular Member
That is only part of the reason the other part is that drivers often do stupid things when they get out step out into traffic, stand in the traffic lane, stand in between the vehicles.
Being out side your vehicle along a busy highway is a more dangerous place then inside.
OC for ME
Regular Member
Cops are not planning to release the dash cam video.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568848/SC-officer-shoots-man-reaching-cane.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568848/SC-officer-shoots-man-reaching-cane.html
OC for ME
Regular Member
The LE knee-jerk response.....it, the shoot, is justified until it is found to not have been justified.
Release the dash cam video!!!
Release the dash cam video!!!
OC for ME
Regular Member
LE has a vested interest in perpetuating the mindset that every shoot is a good shoot until there can be no further value to maintaining such a position. Time, more of it, is the number one goal of LE in a cop involved shooting. Once the incident gets past a week then the "outrage" is long gone, except for a small, vocal, and easily discounted/ignored few.