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    Obtaining a Firearm and Permit

    Hello,

    I have a sister who lives out there and has a DWI. What are her chances of passing a background check, and/or, is it legal for her to own a firearm in Hawaii? Also, can she get a Handgun permit with the DWI on her record?

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    Hawaii is one of the two least gun friendly states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Hawaii is one of the two least gun friendly states.
    Thanks for the information....

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    My daughter D.Pharm just finished her first four years of professional work in Makawao, Maui County, HI. It's a little ethnic farming town that's as out of the way as can be on Maui.

    Now, for her career and her new husband's primarily, they're ATM in the process of moving to Illinois. His dad is retired ISP and I expect his help, and good offices, in arming the kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolerance View Post
    Thanks for the information....
    here this should help you

    looking at the Hawaii police departments website, it appears DWI is not a disqualifier, however, if your sister happens to be in counseling for alcoholism as a result of said conviction then it would make her ineligible for a permit.... that is permit to purchase, licenses to carry are never issued. however the recent Peruta ruling should apply there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    here this should help you

    looking at the Hawaii police departments website, it appears DWI is not a disqualifier, however, if your sister happens to be in counseling for alcoholism as a result of said conviction then it would make her ineligible for a permit.... that is permit to purchase, licenses to carry are never issued. however the recent Peruta ruling should apply there.
    Thank you, my wife wants to get her a rifle and/or pistol and wasn't sure about if her sister could own them. However I wasn't sure if anyone had any experience or advanced knowledge. I can read a law and google it, it doesn't help me if someone interprets the law differently than I do. Since I am not very familiar with HI law considering I live and travel in the NV region mostly, I was asking here.

    Edited: Didn't realize I was the butt end of sarcasm. I had genuinely thanked the person who linked for me.
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    I would not put Hawaii as the second worst firearms state. Aside from the asinine permit process and complete disregard of the 2nd amendment in regards to the right to carry, it is relatively lax compared to many other states. The recent ninth circuit decision may have a positive affect on the pending Baker v. Kealoha case which if it goes in our favor could result in Hawaii being forced to issue carry permits, but it will certainly not happen without a fight from the liberal lawmakers and police.

    Here is a link to the actual law relating to permits to acquire.

    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur..._0134-0002.htm

    If you get her a handgun she will need to take either a hunters education class or NRA handgun safety class beforehand. Neither of those are needed to get a long gun permit. I don't think that having a DUI will result in a permit denial but I don't know the specifics of the case. Personally I believe if you get a DUI you are clearly not responsible enough to drive a car and should not own a gun either but that's not what you are asking. If you ask this question on the 2ahawaii.com forums you will likely get a more decisive answer as I would imagine there are members there to whom this question would apply
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haoleb View Post
    I would not put Hawaii as the second worst firearms state. Aside from the asinine permit process and complete disregard of the 2nd amendment in regards to the right to carry, it is relatively lax compared to many other states. The recent ninth circuit decision may have a positive affect on the pending Baker v. Kealoha case which if it goes in our favor could result in Hawaii being forced to issue carry permits, but it will certainly not happen without a fight from the liberal lawmakers and police.
    Okay, aside from the that whole 'complete disregard for the Second Amendment' thing,
    • and the fact that Hawaii is a 'may issue' (and in practice 'no issue') State,
    • and the long gun and handgun permit to purchase,
    • and the long gun and handgun license to own,
    • and the long run and handgun registration,
    • and the fact that one cannot openly carry a long gun (nor a handgun),
    • and that there are no 'peaceable journey' laws,
    • and the handgun magazine limit laws,
    • and the handgun 'cosmetics law' banning certain features,
    • and that carrying an unloaded, cased, firearm in your car is illegal unless it has accompanying paperwork and is going only to one of 6 enumerated places.


    ..... how is it lax? And what other states are worse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallschirmjäger View Post
    Okay, aside from the that whole 'complete disregard for the Second Amendment' thing,
    • and the fact that Hawaii is a 'may issue' (and in practice 'no issue') State,
    • and the long gun and handgun permit to purchase,
    • and the long gun and handgun license to own,
    • and the long run and handgun registration,
    • and the fact that one cannot openly carry a long gun (nor a handgun),
    • and that there are no 'peaceable journey' laws,
    • and the handgun magazine limit laws,
    • and the handgun 'cosmetics law' banning certain features,
    • and that carrying an unloaded, cased, firearm in your car is illegal unless it has accompanying paperwork and is going only to one of 6 enumerated places.


    ..... how is it lax? And what other states are worse?
    Well in regards to you list you do not need a "license" to have a firearm. Only a permit to acquire and then it must be registered. And you also do not need to have any paperwork with you when you are bringing your firearm to any of the "approved" places. Since carry is not allowed the places you can take it is pretty pointless because those are the places you would ever take one anyway.

    Don't get me wrong here. This place completely sucks for gun owners and I hope the whole damn sh*t hole of a state sinks to the bottom of the ocean but at least we don't have things like restrictions on buying ammo, AR15 mags limited to 10rds... and except for the so called "assault pistols" we can own almost any firearm we want. Massachusetts is one state that immediately comes to mind that is worse in some regards...

    The stupid permit to acquire is a pain in the ass but its not impossible. Overall the state sucks for gun owners though. Primarily lack of places to actually shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haoleb View Post
    so called "assault pistols" we can own almost any firearm we want..
    ha! a new term... assault pistols rock. you should get one. My buddy just finished a 7.5" pistol build with that sig brace. It's a blast to shoot and loud as a cannon (ok ive never heard a cannon but it's really loud)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopis View Post
    ha! a new term... assault pistols rock. you should get one. My buddy just finished a 7.5" pistol build with that sig brace. It's a blast to shoot and loud as a cannon (ok ive never heard a cannon but it's really loud)

    Now here is an assault pistol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopis View Post
    ha! a new term... assault pistols rock. you should get one. My buddy just finished a 7.5" pistol build with that sig brace. It's a blast to shoot and loud as a cannon (ok ive never heard a cannon but it's really loud)

    I do have one back in Maine, A ruger 22 charger. Couldn't bring it to hawaii because it is an "assault pistol"

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