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    Friend beaten and robbed at gunpoint this morning

    I work for a large company with about 30 offices in the memphis area. One of our branch managers (very small girl, maybe 5' or so and 100lbs wet) was jogging with her dog this morning at her apartments in cordova, TN (supposedly one of the better parts of memphis) and was held up by two individuals. She didnt have any money since she was jogging in her complex so they pistol whipped her and beat her pretty badly then kicked her on the ground till she passed out.

    I dont really have any more specifics right now about her situational awareness or how it happened but i know she doesnt carry a firearm. Goes to show you how important it is to be vigilant, aware and armed at all times, even at 630am on tuesday.

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    Carry carry carry, no matter what neighborhood you live in. Don't ever become complacent. I really hope she is ok, physically but especially mentally! I don't know the psychology behind it all but I can only imagine something like that can be very traumatic and hard to cope with for a lot of people. I'm guessing it would be a bad idea to bombard her with "you should start carrying" after an ordeal like this, but perhaps at some point it could be brought up that carrying a firearm for self defense is a good thing to do.
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    Too late for most. Withdrawl is the easy route. A can of mace/pepper spray is the obvious first choice. Firearms, she will need hand holding on that score.

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    Joggin around with your iPod Nano seems like fun, until it isn't.

    Recommend she carries ... hope she gets well.

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    prey is prey small women out running by her self no weapons prime pickings
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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    Memphis ? Let me guess the color of the suspects..........
    There appears to be an attempt to implicate something here. What might that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by georg jetson View Post
    There appears to be an attempt to implicate something here. What might that be?
    I did notice a politically interesting lack of the description of the suspects, race, age, height, etc..
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    I did notice a politically interesting lack of the description of the suspects, race, age, height, etc..
    I would hazard it's due to the remarkable lack of connection between the nature of a crime and physical descriptors of its perpetrators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopis View Post
    I work for a large company with about 30 offices in the memphis area. One of our branch managers (very small girl, maybe 5' or so and 100lbs wet) was jogging with her dog this morning at her apartments in cordova, TN (supposedly one of the better parts of memphis) and was held up by two individuals...
    Best wishes for your co-worker.

    Please let us know if conversations with her, when appropriate, produce greater interest in matters of self-defense.

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    Sorry to hear about that. My well wishes and thoughts go out to her.


    We should never blame the victim for the acts of aggressors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Sorry to hear about that. My well wishes and thoughts go out to her.


    We should never blame the victim for the acts of aggressors.

    We can point out errors in the victim's behavior that did not mitigate the attack.

    Walking around with hundred dollar bills taped to your hat? Expect the $$ to be stolen sooner or later.

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    There are no nice areas around Memphis... always go armed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    I would hazard it's due to the remarkable lack of connection between the nature of a crime and physical descriptors of its perpetrators.
    Kinda like the "knock out game"?

    There are evils everywhere, certain groups are more prone to certain evils.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    What's ironic is a few months ago another manager's employee saw me out in this same area OCing at Genghis grill in cordova. he made a comment that he saw me "reppin a big @ss glock" (just a g17 in a comptac OTW straight drop holster) and thought it was stupid because i was in cordova and i didn't need to carry a gun. The next weekend the 5-6 armed guys robbed Reed's jewelers in the wolfchase mall less than a mile away and now this happened just another mile or two down the street.

    Even yesterday, i met a buddy for lunch in cordova and while waiting for him the car, i saw a less than reputable looking guy kinda of watching me then walk slowly behind my car, i locked the doors and started the car up and he kind of darted away. Had i not been looking around and had my head buried in my cell phone playing angry birds or something, i would've been a prime target to open the door and rob me/steal my car. I don't know if that was his intention or what but just being aware helped me avert a potentially bad situation.


    I do believe the attackers were AA, i didn't think that was relevant but putting it out there can stop the guessing game and comments i suppose. It's really a shame because i have some great black friends, some middle income like myself and others minimum wage but they work 2+ jobs and are great people. Memphis has a real problem with entitlement and the blame game across the board. The previous mayor really worked hard to cultivate race problems to keep himself in office (while he became rich). I remember some of his last radio commercials were playing a rap song called "walk it out" and he was saying "walk it out to the polls and help brother hereton shake the haters off". Another time he was supposed to debate an opponent (white guy named cohen) who is an even BIGGER liberal. he refused at the 11th hour and said the two moderators were racist (i think they were both black lol) and cohen was a white jew who wished he was black or something along those lines. When the leader of your city speaks like that......... it doesn't help cultivate a good atmosphere at all.


    No update on the victim yet. Her friend said she cant open her eyes because they are swollen shut and doesn't want to see or talk to anyone right now.

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    That's terrible what happened to your co-worker.


    I run all the time... I"m 6' and around 200lbs... I guess I'm just a big paranoid sissy, because I don't go running without packin... in fact, I have to trade in the EDC for a pocket pistol (9mm) and I actually feel under gunned... I hope I never get into some sort of altercation, or am able to RUN away...


    I just talked to a very small woman in my running group...about 5' and 105lbs... she happens to be an aid for one of our most hated liberal senators... she was talking about taking a month long backpacking vacation through georgia and some other states... up the coast I suppose... on her own... without a vehicle... unarmed.... LOL!!! I just shook my head. Fortunately, some of the other women in the group commented and told her she was bat sh*t crazy to consider that....


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    Quote Originally Posted by HKcarrier View Post
    <snip> I just talked to a very small woman in my running group...about 5' and 105lbs... she happens to be an aid for one of our most hated liberal senators... she was talking about taking a month long backpacking vacation through georgia and some other states... up the coast I suppose... on her own... without a vehicle... unarmed.... LOL!!! I just shook my head. Fortunately, some of the other women in the group commented and told her she was bat sh*t crazy to consider that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopis View Post
    was jogging with her dog....................
    Must not have been much of a dog. Reminds me of the "heart attack" commercial where the guy gets a sticky handed to him saying his heart attack is scheduled for the next day. No one hands you the yellow sticky to tell you when you will need your weapon. IMHO you always need your weapon, you just don't always have to use it.
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    Must not have been much of a dog. Reminds me of the "heart attack" commercial where the guy gets a sticky handed to him saying his heart attack is scheduled for the next day. No one hands you the yellow sticky to tell you when you will need your weapon. IMHO you always need your weapon, you just don't always have to use it.
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    Best wishes for a speedy recovery. When she can open her eyes again, you might give her a free copy of my book, "I Am NOT A Victim"
    Read the story of the man I had to shoot to save my life... and follow the directions at the end to get the book. http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/?page_id=846

    Book will be sent, no charge, in pdf file to anyone who sends me an email requesting it. These are the exercises I do myself on a regular basis, and teach to all of my classes. I believe that these exercises could make the difference between a successful defense, and death or serious injury. Itís too important not to at least consider.
    I will not knowingly initiate force. I am a self owner.

    Let the record show that I did not consent to be governed. I did not consent to any constitution. I did not consent to any president. I did not consent to any law except the natural law of "mala en se." I did not consent to the police. Nor any tax. Nor any prohibition of anything. Nor any regulation or licensing of any kind.

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    Mamaliberty, thanks. ill take you up on that.


    She did return to work today with a black eye still. She's always been a tough girl i thought but she really showed it by coming in for a meeting with all area employees present. she wore her black eye proudly lol.

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