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    Roll Call! Looking to gauge interest!

    I'm interested in getting together with some other open carry 2nd amendment advocates, anybody else interested post up where you are!

    I'm Tom, my brother and I are in the Bridgton and Windham areas most of the time!

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    Moved this to the main Maine page so that it will get more exposure.

    When you actually get a place, date and time settled then start a new thread and put it in Events.

    Oh, and please don't text and drive - OCers are responsible people, not accidents looking for a place to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Oh, and please don't text and drive - OCers are responsible people, not accidents looking for a place to happen.
    It's a signature....and a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToMang07 View Post
    It's a signature....and a joke.

    Sent while swerving into the wrong lane...
    Who would have known?

    Signatures (sig lines) are added via your Profile and appear below a light blue line - they are automatically included with every post.

    No intention to other than help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Who would have known?

    Signatures (sig lines) are added via your Profile and appear below a light blue line - they are automatically included with every post.

    No intention to other than help you.
    It's just a standard tapatalk feature. I've been using a mobile. I can't even remember if I have an actual sig on here.

    And I appreciate the help.

    Just trying to gauge interest if there is any. Appears there isnt, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToMang07 View Post
    --snipped--
    Just trying to gauge interest if there is any. Appears there isnt, unfortunately.
    I expect that activity/interest will pick up as it warms up and when GOMaine (Gun Owners of Maine) goes on-line.

    Shane Belanger has been hard at work getting this ready. It has a polished look and something for everybody.
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    Gun Rally

    I don't think the public has the stomach for this right now. It's not that I don't support the cause or gun rights. I believe if this is to be done it must be done wisely. We must think outside of the box and find a way to show our love of the second amendment, with our outrage of recent crimes commented with firearms in schools. Maybe a fund raiser to help victims, maybe not? I don't really know how or what? I do believe recent school shootings should be consider or you'll do more harm than good with rally right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    I don't think the public has the stomach for this right now. It's not that I don't support the cause or gun rights. I believe if this is to be done it must be done wisely. We must think outside of the box and find a way to show our love of the second amendment, with our outrage of recent crimes commented with firearms in schools. Maybe a fund raiser to help victims, maybe not? I don't really know how or what? I do believe recent school shootings should be consider or you'll do more harm than good with rally right now.
    Representing the gun community in a positive way never does any harm. And most people are not going to have a stomach for it if they're against guns anyway so it's really not going to matter.

    Other than a couple little old ladies giving me the stink eye, I have never had a negative reaction from open carrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToMang07 View Post
    Representing the gun community in a positive way never does any harm. And most people are not going to have a stomach for it if they're against guns anyway so it's really not going to matter.

    Other than a couple little old ladies giving me the stink eye, I have never had a negative reaction from open carrying.

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    Isn't that what I just said? With the mass shootings/killings of school children it's more important than ever to be sensitive to public concern. It's very important to represent ourselves as positive and caring concerned citizens. There's really no sense to debate this point with me as you'll never convince me otherwise. I'm pro gun but also a realist, we are in a politico fight for our lives to survive attacks to take our arms away and not being aware of public unrest after seeing their/our children shot down in cold blood is just foolhardy if you want to plan a gun rally or event. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but that it should be done tactfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    Isn't that what I just said? With the mass shootings/killings of school children it's more important than ever to be sensitive to public concern. It's very important to represent ourselves as positive and caring concerned citizens. There's really no sense to debate this point with me as you'll never convince me otherwise. I'm pro gun but also a realist, we are in a politico fight for our lives to survive attacks to take our arms away and not being aware of public unrest after seeing their/our children shot down in cold blood is just foolhardy if you want to plan a gun rally or event. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but that it should be done tactfully.
    And apparently you're a dear of fighting back is to lay down and give them what they want.

    Real winning strategy right there.

    You're sounding more and more like the anti-gunners from Connecticut.

    If you're to scared to exercise your rights, too bad for you. But if there's ever a time to exercise your rights and show that there is nothing to fear; to show the public that most gun owners are good law abiding citizens; and that we won't let our rights be stamped out in fear, that time is now.

    Cowering will not help our cause, by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Correctly gauging the anticipated result(s) of any effort simply makes good sense - that is the fundamental goal of successful public relations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToMang07 View Post
    And apparently you're a dear of fighting back is to lay down and give them what they want.

    Real winning strategy right there.

    You're sounding more and more like the anti-gunners from Connecticut.

    If you're to scared to exercise your rights, too bad for you. But if there's ever a time to exercise your rights and show that there is nothing to fear; to show the public that most gun owners are good law abiding citizens; and that we won't let our rights be stamped out in fear, that time is now.

    Cowering will not help our cause, by any stretch of the imagination.

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    I doubt I'm to scared, been there done that before I ever heard of you. Was there at the beginning of MOCA and some of the people who have followed this forum for years know who I am cause I was there with them. So slow down chap, I'm just saying to you to be wiser than the anti gun crowd if you want to make a difference. Pick your battles wisely and always conduct yourself as a concerned citizen who respects other opinions even if yours may differ. You'll get further if the goal is to make a difference not just antagonize the general public.
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    Done right, I think this would be a great event...

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMang07 View Post
    I'm interested in getting together with some other open carry 2nd amendment advocates, anybody else interested post up where you are!
    I think an organized open carry event would be great. I'm in Lewiston and somewhat central.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grundi View Post
    I think an organized open carry event would be great. I'm in Lewiston and somewhat central.
    I also think it would be good idea done tactfully. If done I'd like to see it tied into some kind of fund raiser even if it brings in just a few dollars. Something to help the public good. I like to see a donation going towards family violence or something in that line. It would make it harder for the anti's to paint us all with a broad brush as gun owners. Grapeshot stated that Shane Belanger was planning something with Go-Me later this year as the weather warms up. I'll ask the question now as I know Shane personally and he follows Opencarry.org Do you see the event being friendly to Open Carry crowd or do you foresee limiting it to concealed carry to protect the cause? I would understand either way, very aware many gun owner dislike the open carry crowd and believe it's doing more harm than good.

    If Shane is planning to include all, my suggestion is wait and join forces with him this summer. There is power in numbers and Shane certainly has been through this before and also knows how to deal with the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    --snipped--
    Grapeshot stated that Shane Belanger was planning something with Go-Me later this year as the weather warms up. I'll ask the question now as I know Shane personally and he follows Opencarry.org Do you see the event being friendly to Open Carry crowd or do you foresee limiting it to concealed carry to protect the cause? I would understand either way, very aware many gun owner dislike the open carry crowd and believe it's doing more harm than good.

    If Shane is planning to include all, my suggestion is wait and join forces with him this summer. There is power in numbers and Shane certainly has been through this before and also knows how to deal with the media.
    Don't have any specific knowledge of any event that Shane may have in the works yet.

    BTW - the new name is GOMaine! (Gun Owners of Maine!) and does embrace/welcome all gun owners - not just those who OC.
    Acceptance of this site has been extremely good - new members signing up with great regularity.
    http://www.gunownersofmaine.org/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    I also think it would be good idea done tactfully. If done I'd like to see it tied into some kind of fund raiser even if it brings in just a few dollars. Something to help the public good. I like to see a donation going towards family violence or something in that line. It would make it harder for the anti's to paint us all with a broad brush as gun owners. Grapeshot stated that Shane Belanger was planning something with Go-Me later this year as the weather warms up. I'll ask the question now as I know Shane personally and he follows Opencarry.org Do you see the event being friendly to Open Carry crowd or do you foresee limiting it to concealed carry to protect the cause? I would understand either way, very aware many gun owner dislike the open carry crowd and believe it's doing more harm than good.

    If Shane is planning to include all, my suggestion is wait and join forces with him this summer. There is power in numbers and Shane certainly has been through this before and also knows how to deal with the media.
    Why do you keep posting? You don't seem interested short of doing a fundraiser. You want to do a fundraiser? Do it. Start a thread and go do it.

    Me, I was just looking to gauge interest from people who DO want to OC, and maybe organize an event with like-minded people. (Second Amendment Advocates.)

    I have been OC since I have owned guns, and CC'd since I was legally old enough. Never had a negative reaction or encounter. In fact quite the opposite, the few people who have said anything had only positive comments with maybe a few questions thrown in.

    If you don't have any interest, you have no reason to post. This was a thread about organizing an OC meet. Not about your feelings or fundraisers. I could care less what anti-gunners feel or like, trying to appease them will never help our cause, and I won't give them an inch. It's my God given right to carry and protect myself and my property, and I have the backing of the Second Amendment. I will never heel to those that would have it any other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToMang07 View Post
    --snipped--

    If you don't have any interest, you have no reason to post. This was a thread about organizing an OC meet. Not about your feelings or fundraisers. I could care less what anti-gunners feel or like, trying to appease them will never help our cause, and I won't give them an inch. It's my God given right to carry and protect myself and my property, and I have the backing of the Second Amendment. I will never heel to those that would have it any other way.
    We are on the same team - so suggest you go lightly there.

    Threads will wander and expand a bit - that doesn't make them off-topic.

    Be careful with use of deadly force to protect your property - that will likely cause you big problems.
    http://www.mainelegislature.org/legi...7-Asec105.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    We are on the same team - so suggest you go lightly there.

    Threads will wander and expand a bit - that doesn't make them off-topic.

    Be careful with use of deadly force to protect your property - that will likely cause you big problems.
    http://www.mainelegislature.org/legi...7-Asec105.html
    I'm aware of the law, but thank you anyway. 104 is a better explanation, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToMang07 View Post
    Why do you keep posting? You don't seem interested short of doing a fundraiser. You want to do a fundraiser? Do it. Start a thread and go do it.

    Me, I was just looking to gauge interest from people who DO want to OC, and maybe organize an event with like-minded people. (Second Amendment Advocates.)

    I have been OC since I have owned guns, and CC'd since I was legally old enough. Never had a negative reaction or encounter. In fact quite the opposite, the few people who have said anything had only positive comments with maybe a few questions thrown in.

    If you don't have any interest, you have no reason to post. This was a thread about organizing an OC meet. Not about your feelings or fundraisers. I could care less what anti-gunners feel or like, trying to appease them will never help our cause, and I won't give them an inch. It's my God given right to carry and protect myself and my property, and I have the backing of the Second Amendment. I will never heel to those that would have it any other way.
    I posted cause I wanted to gauge your leadership qualities, so I could decide if I wanted to be involved with the open carry event you were planning. Your response has told me all I needed to know. Thank you for your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    I posted cause I wanted to gauge your leadership qualities, so I could decide if I wanted to be involved with the open carry event you were planning. Your response has told me all I needed to know. Thank you for your time.
    Now there's a huge loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Don't have any specific knowledge of any event that Shane may have in the works yet.

    BTW - the new name is GOMaine! (Gun Owners of Maine!) and does embrace/welcome all gun owners - not just those who OC.
    Acceptance of this site has been extremely good - new members signing up with great regularity.
    http://www.gunownersofmaine.org/
    Thanks Grapeshot I stand corrected. I will try to make a point to use GoMaine in the future. Also thanks for the input that GoMaine is also supporting the opencarry crowd. I really wasn't sure what the position was seeing I have stayed away from it for sometime because I didn't feel comfortable in the direction it was going. I do understand though we must do what must be done to win the masses or nothing will be gained.
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    Thank you, Shane, for your efforts...

    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    I will try to make a point to use GoMaine in the future. Also thanks for the input that GoMaine is also supporting the opencarry crowd. I really wasn't sure what the position was seeing I have stayed away from it for sometime because I didn't feel comfortable in the direction it was going.
    From their beginning, I thought GOMaine's focus was to stay plugged into the legislative/municipal/legal pulse of activity pertaining to the 2nd Amendment (US) and Article I Section 16 (ME). Whether a law will stand up to constitutional scrutiny or not doesn't stop our legislature or congress from enacting them. Once enacted, someone must be brave enough to break it, then marshal it through the court system until it's found unconstitutional. It's easier to stop a bad law from becoming a law when you have someone like Shane at GOMaine watchdogging what's happening in Augusta and elsewhere, and let everyone know about it.

    Not everyone is cut out to do what Shane does, but I'm glad he's doing it. Thank you, Shane.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonjon_jon View Post
    I do understand though we must do what must be done to win the masses or nothing will be gained.
    The sad truth is that this battle to maintain our 2-A/I-16 rights will never be fully won. There will always be opposition trying to put limits on our right or abolish it altogether.

    The battle cry "it's the law of the land" only works if it's a law that the opposition agrees with. No higher law in Maine than our Maine Constitution, and no higher law in the US than the US Constitution. And here we are still fighting to keep each and every right.
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