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    two men with video cameras can change an entire police department

    My friend has been arrested 3 times by the Hawthorne police department for video recording. He has won 3 lawsuits against them for all of the arrests.

    There was a time in the city where if he showed up to film they would harass, threaten and arrest for filming them. This is a blatant violation of constitutional rights.

    Watch this video and see how the police treat him now !!!

    Additionally, in this video you should note where we are standing and filming. Exactly one year ago I was filming by myself in this exact location at a DUI checkpoint and a Sgt came over and told me to leave and threatened me with arrest for filming.

    Man, times have changed. The police have changed. All because two men with video cameras stood their ground and stood up for the constitutional rights of all Americans.

    The Lt in this video comes off as nice and friendly but make no mistake, this guy is a crooked cop who lied on all of our police and arrest reports and destroyed evidence and engaged in a cover up in our arrests and the arrests of others.

    Of course, since he has qualified immunity and indemnification nothing personally every happened to him. The city government just made the tax payers foot the bill and pay for his sins.

    Must be nice being a cop and being above the law.


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    I doubt that tampering with evidence is something that their job's immunity would cover ...

    what did ya win win via the 3 cases , $$$$

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    These ROADBLOCKS are straight out of Nazi Germany/Communist USSR/etc.

    Here is a horrifying example out of Tennessee.

    Man Arrested at Illegal Checkpoint in Eagleville, TN FULL VIDEO
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0OS9IArIBo


    2 men with cameras expose these crimes, half a dozen TRAINED and armed men could END them.


    How long would "checkpoints" continue across this country if they were RIGHTFULLY attacked for the treasonous Police State operations they are??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
    These ROADBLOCKS are straight out of Nazi Germany/Communist USSR/etc.

    He is a horrifying example out of Tennessee.

    Man Arrested at Illegal Checkpoint in Eagleville, TN FULL VIDEO
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0OS9IArIBo


    2 men with cameras expose these crimes, half a dozen TRAINED and armed men could END them.


    How long would "checkpoints" continue across this country if they were RIGHTFULLY attacked for the treasonous Police State operations they are??????
    Reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
    These ROADBLOCKS are straight out of Nazi Germany/Communist USSR/etc.

    He is a horrifying example out of Tennessee.

    Man Arrested at Illegal Checkpoint in Eagleville, TN FULL VIDEO
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0OS9IArIBo


    2 men with cameras expose these crimes, half a dozen TRAINED and armed men could END them.


    How long would "checkpoints" continue across this country if they were RIGHTFULLY attacked for the treasonous Police State operations they are??????
    I agree ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Reported.

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    Reported??????

    For what?

    Speaking the truth?


    Mr. Primus, do YOU support using the Constitution as toilet paper????

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    Sorry for the distraction of Mr. Primus' "reporting".

    THE QUESTION WAS.....................




    How long would "checkpoints" continue across this country if they were RIGHTFULLY attacked for the treasonous Police State operations they are??????






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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
    Reported??????

    For what?

    Speaking the truth?


    Mr. Primus, do YOU support using the Constitution as toilet paper????
    Sure. For speaking the truth and advocating violence and illegal activity

    I support using Scott brand toilet paper. If your posts were in a paper format I would use them, except they would already be full of.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Sure. For speaking the truth and advocating violence and illegal activity
    Illegal Activity, Primus.

    You said it all right there.

    These NAZI CHECKPOINTS in America, ARE "illegal activity".

    Resisting them in any way CAN GET SOMEONE KILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Your "colors" are transparent, Primus. Statist BLUE, through and through.



    How about you shed that "color" and support The Constitution and the Individual LIBERTY it supposedly protects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Sure. For speaking the truth and advocating violence and illegal activity

    I support using Scott brand toilet paper. If your posts were in a paper format I would use them, except they would already be full of.....

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    Lol. This is actually a good one, Primus. Very witty IMO.

    However, it isn't always illegal to resist arrest, or even use lethal force to resist a police officer's arrest or orders. Some states, or at least mine, generally provide that a 3rd party can nearly always defend another to the degree that person would be justified in defending themselves, as well, so putting an end to certain abuses that you witnessed as opposed to were experiencing for yourself would also be legally justifiable.

    Therefore, the activity "advocated" above isn't necessarily illegal. I haven't watched the video so I'm not speaking in the context of it, just speaking generally.
    Advocate freedom please

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    It's interesting to see which side people choose.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Lol. This is actually a good one, Primus. Very witty IMO.

    However, it isn't always illegal to resist arrest, or even use lethal force to resist a police officer's arrest or orders. Some states, or at least mine, generally provide that a 3rd party can nearly always defend another to the degree that person would be justified in defending themselves, as well, so putting an end to certain abuses that you witnessed as opposed to were experiencing for yourself would also be legally justifiable.

    Therefore, the activity "advocated" above isn't necessarily illegal. I haven't watched the video so I'm not speaking in the context of it, just speaking generally.
    Lol I'm glad you got a chuckle.

    And I actually agree with the having the right to resist the unreasonable use of deadly force. It was shown to me the case , black vs. US maybe?, where it a citizen can defend themselves against DEADLY force with equally deadly force.

    But... that's NOT what this guys said.

    He said straight out a group of men shooting cops at a dui check point and killing them. He then said if that occurred that others would think about ever conducting a checkpoint again.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Lol I'm glad you got a chuckle.

    And I actually agree with the having the right to resist the unreasonable use of deadly force. It was shown to me the case , black vs. US maybe?, where it a citizen can defend themselves against DEADLY force with equally deadly force.

    But... that's NOT what this guys said.

    He said straight out a group of men shooting cops at a dui check point and killing them. He then said if that occurred that others would think about ever conducting a checkpoint again.



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    The case wasn't just about resisting deadly force.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Sure. For speaking the truth and advocating violence and illegal activity

    I support using Scott brand toilet paper. If your posts were in a paper format I would use them, except they would already be full of.....
    You are right, this is terrible.

    The poster needs to be punished.

    I suggest he be punished very severely. I sentence him to 2 weeks of additional training and I order the tax payers to pay a settlement to the victims. That will teach him !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    You are right, this is terrible.

    The poster needs to be punished.

    I suggest he be punished very severely. I sentence him to 2 weeks of additional training and I order the tax payers to pay a settlement to the victims. That will teach him !!!!
    Is this what you won in your 3 civil cases .... a settlement for "training"? That's not what lawsuits are about ... they are about $$$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Is this what you won in your 3 civil cases .... a settlement for "training"? That's not what lawsuits are about ... they are about $$$$.
    In my friends lawsuits he won $25,000 for his first illegal arrest. For the second illegal arrest he won $75,000. And his 3rd is currently pending.

    There are also 2 other arrests that he is likely going to file lawsuits over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    In my friends lawsuits he won $25,000 for his first illegal arrest. For the second illegal arrest he won $75,000. And his 3rd is currently pending.

    There are also 2 other arrests that he is likely going to file lawsuits over.
    That's sweet .... made a few bucks the third should be for a billion !

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    That's sweet .... made a few bucks the third should be for a billion !
    No..... that's..... one bbiiillliiiooonnn dollars. And some friggin laser beams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    No..... that's..... one bbiiillliiiooonnn dollars. And some friggin laser beams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus
    My friend has been arrested 3 times by the Hawthorne police department for video recording.
    He has won 3 lawsuits against them for all of the arrests.
    So he's won 2 suits, for a total of $100,000, and still they arrested him a third time?
    Not too bright, are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    So he's won 2 suits, for a total of $100,000, and still they arrested him a third time?
    Not too bright, are they?
    Could go either way....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    So he's won 2 suits, for a total of $100,000, and still they arrested him a third time?
    Not too bright, are they?
    The police, city council and mayor don't care, its not their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    The police, city council and mayor don't care, its not their money.
    I would not care where the money came from ... cash is cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    No..... that's..... one bbiiillliiiooonnn dollars. And some friggin laser beams.

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    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    The police, city council and mayor don't care, its not their money.


    "Law" enFORCEment officers never have to take PERSONAL responsibility for their actions. The Unions and the system/racket (thin blue line) they operate under ensure they are IMMUNE to all but the most heinous acts.

    The city council and mayor have to get re-elected which puts some accountability on their shoulders.
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